0:08 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for watching. 0:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that all worked out the way it did. 0:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was proudlyly providential. 0:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a hopeless focus. 0:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Sister Kathy has never come to me in a dream and said, Tom, keep going around the right path. 0:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I got none of that for you. 0:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All I know is keep plowing forward and hopefully something will happen. 0:45 [SPEAKER_02]: We got lucky as hell with the keepers. 0:48 [SPEAKER_02]: By dinner, I'm on the website inside Baltimore. 0:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I would get three hits a week, maybe. 0:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody who's been Catholic and came across it by chance. 0:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, read your thing in the inside Baltimore. 0:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know that in the first six weeks after the keepers began, I received not three visitors a week, but 177,000 visitors, and many of them were just there to say, 1:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I read back to work and I get a copy or stuff like, but lots of others said thanks for hanging in there. 1:23 [SPEAKER_02]: You and the keepers and all the other people who, including Romans and the real guys, they were bold and daring. 1:29 [SPEAKER_02]: This guy said, that's, and I do not both them in the least. 1:32 [SPEAKER_02]: They dared to start breaking that story, which was calented. 1:36 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened when you asked Gemma to see if any of the 1:45 [SPEAKER_02]: from that halla, to remember what was going on and then would help make go ahead and start going with these people and looking for other kinds of internet related radicals. 1:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We set up like I would stay in the email loop with them so they wouldn't feel like they were only talking to a stranger. 2:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't give a member of this, but you had little to member little made of appointments to meet you and you had Teresa, there were so many women wanted to talk to about what happened to them that was like all hell broke lips. 2:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for that, Jim, and you're just going back to me. 2:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I remember you came to Baltimore. 2:30 [SPEAKER_02]: You just let me, you know how we are when we get older. 2:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember things five minutes too late, but little as little here is you would send a warning email look, I won't stay on the interview with you if you want, or I won't be available on email. 2:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We, the first and last command that we follow is, do no harm like a doctor, we will not injure anyone. 2:58 [SPEAKER_01]: people need to know that because it's a journalist. 3:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was one of your guidelines that you were going to be accessible to people, but you were not going to push people and you were not going to make them uncomfortable. 3:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you did that the whole way through because nobody that you interviewed ever said they felt pressured or uncomfortable with you. 3:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And you did. 3:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You left it up to the survivor to say, 3:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I can talk about it right now. 3:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So I want people to know what a good guy you were because not everybody operates that way. 3:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you and I'm well aware of your frequent announcements on this program. 3:35 [SPEAKER_02]: that before you start listening, if you think you might have a triggering incident, here you out, they did muck a call, etc., etc., absolutely. 3:43 [SPEAKER_02]: That was, I could not live with myself, if I said, it's already hard to live with what I've seen these victims go through now. 3:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we don't have time for the list of people who killed themselves, drinking, self-sadent, or simply imprisoning dark, 4:03 [SPEAKER_02]: paranoid style lives of drunken possibility because of the way they were injured in these unspeakable manners. 4:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think I think it's fair to say to my knowledge, nobody really has communicated with me to say, New Jersey, this is factually wrong. 4:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You do not know what you are saying here. 4:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It is an error. 4:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody including some of the very angry people like 4:29 [SPEAKER_02]: certain priest that the name therefore I have to say okay let's move on on glad certainly glad that's the case this has been tough enough I'm glad I'm not also dealing with horrible You completely in hell or hearing if you know to apologize by on NBC knows by Wednesday And then lawsuit starts at 20 million there's none of that. 4:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not there. 4:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So 4:53 [SPEAKER_02]: has the keepers demonstrated they sack their teeth into the basic narrative that you and I and several other people develop over a long period of time. 5:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen anybody so the kicker yet either. 5:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I do know the fact the facts are there and they speak themselves and they speak in a disturbing way as you know so well. 5:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm okay. 5:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm scared. 5:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Now this is a real deal. 5:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you something. 5:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I won't mention this specific family member, but one of the masculine family members when I called to interview that person and said, what about all this horrible stuff? 5:29 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been clearly did it, what's going on? 5:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen to the visual said, Mr. Nudgent, I need to remind you that we still have ongoing live contacts with the IRAN. 5:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you get bad, and I said, you know, don't pardon me while I'm choking there. 5:48 [SPEAKER_00]: When you mentioned, I already, what are you talking about? 5:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I wish we public and army. 5:54 [SPEAKER_02]: The historic force that brought those two centuries to the eventual, eventually, eject. 6:00 [SPEAKER_02]: The British colonial empire from most of Ireland, they remain, of course, Northern Ireland remains a part of the UK. 6:07 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, and as I debate about that, their message was, if you come in after Catholics, you're coming after us, and you're coming after Catholics. 6:17 [SPEAKER_00]: How did your online publication, inside Baltimore, develop? 6:21 [SPEAKER_02]: After the city popular story ran, I started to get calls and my band that technology was developing. 6:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't change your spare time. 6:30 [SPEAKER_02]: All I can do is type adutives. 6:32 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I've been telling people for years. 6:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't change your time. 6:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand any of the electronics and computers. 6:38 [SPEAKER_02]: But I can type adutives. 6:41 [SPEAKER_02]: that it was a dark and stormy night. 6:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Gradually, Amy convinced, hey, you ought to get an online presence. 6:46 [SPEAKER_02]: The people can come to me constantly because in all I've heard you do, and gentlemen, you constantly underline the idea that we have to connect with each other and with other people who may know that. 6:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course, that's true. 6:58 [SPEAKER_02]: It was certainly before the capers, so it was probably around 2012. 7:03 [SPEAKER_01]: How many articles have he died? 7:09 [SPEAKER_02]: they're probably 25 up there. 7:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I get the heart of this of what happened with Moscow, and we can go there if you weren't later, is all about Ireland. 7:20 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all about family and Ireland. 7:24 [SPEAKER_00]: What's your perspective on how copies investigation, how that investigation was handled? 7:28 [SPEAKER_02]: That's quite a question, of course, as Halt Gideon. 7:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Give your short answer the basic line is this. 7:34 [SPEAKER_02]: The priest who was meant to wager, he was also a ditchist and green man. 7:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there are reasons that account to that, psychological reasons that are woven mysteriously and with great fascination I had looked into this, 7:52 [SPEAKER_02]: He fell, he had the right to invade other people's privacy, and even begin abusing them and raping them in all the rest that we, even the Archdiocese, has paid off victims and admitted that the accusations are any reasonable person would say they are all true. 8:12 [SPEAKER_00]: life can get overwhelming, and talking to someone can make all the difference. 8:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Better help, the sponsor of this episode, make starting therapy simple. 8:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Complete a short questionnaire and you'll be matched with a licensed therapist, and as little as a couple of days, you can connect by message, phone or video, from wherever you feel comfortable. 8:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And if the first therapist isn't the right fit, 8:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Better help include a journal for personal reflection, and daily group sessions on a variety of topics, and they accept each essay 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Washington D.C. at our dear all nation's capital, even though this sick surface is beginning to unfold. 10:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He's taking sending girls up to that holiday in on week four day in the cops. 10:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He's coming in and having their way with them and maybe a city councilman and maybe he'd been a senator, maybe even a few former Baltimore mayors, good heavens, then something changes. 10:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And what is the same thing? 10:22 [SPEAKER_02]: This is my understanding right now. 10:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Dural Father Maskel decides he wants more academic credentials. 10:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He goes over to Johns Hopkins School of Psychiatry and takes a one-year course in what they call Educational Psychologist. 10:38 [SPEAKER_02]: What does he find at Hopkins? 10:40 [SPEAKER_02]: When he goes over to Hopkins, you remember he is a certified 100% Roman calmer wearing and really energetic, hard-nosed, Catholic priest. 10:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes over and he says, I want to know more 10:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I teach a course on psychology at TO. 10:58 [SPEAKER_02]: He's even classes at TO, and what she says, I am real smart, not all of that. 11:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm learning a degree in educational psychology, and I think that the local technological community college, I'm over there in that big hard-hitting one of the world's great human centers of our time, trying to drop consumer diversity there. 11:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That's my educational certificate thing. 11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It about it going over there once a week, three or two on class, so they can earn a little extra income in my opinion. 11:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I have a master's degree in the humanities, some Johns Hopkins might sell, so I feel entitled to claim that I have some insight about how they actually do business over there. 11:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And I will tell you something in a moment, I think that might shock you considerably. 11:45 [SPEAKER_02]: at any rate. 11:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was getting his degree and telling the grains that he understands how this good morning was sexually abused and they got to watch his film with him. 11:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And then if any of them feel like they were abused at home by an uncle or a president or God help us even a father. 12:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And they need to come to him and like John Connery, the star, psychiatrists in morning, he will help them figure out their terrible scars and their injury when this problem and make them whole and healthy again. 12:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Except something is going on in Hopkins during this too. 12:23 [SPEAKER_02]: This is one of Hopkins's, at the during this period, is one of the 44 12:30 [SPEAKER_02]: named American universities and colleges that are participating in illegal mine control experiments and I'll get you the documentation in a minute if you can get it on Wikipedia they just follow the link nowadays it's so common and it says 12:49 [SPEAKER_02]: The techniques they used were often drugs, especially LSD, but they also frequently areas tipnotism. 12:57 [SPEAKER_02]: How many guys had you two interviewed women who described TikTok, you swing in the one-hitch back and forth, as you said, he said, all of them, he said, all right, and so he doesn't even need to watch. 13:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Always got to do is say the word TikTok and you're into the spell, the baby. 13:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God. 13:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but in the language, it is in the 500, 700 pages in the post-scrip. 13:21 [SPEAKER_02]: There are 700 pages of testimony in the 1977 and the follow-up in 1979. 13:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Congressional testimony before the true franchise of Idaho Committee, the details right down to the smallest names 13:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Where this stuff was occurring and what they were creating these cutouts of the parliament that by now, these secret phony populations, they would create a cutout. 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: A cutout is five guys who are connected but removed one step by my intelligence community, create acne research company, right? 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, acne research company rose to Hopkins. 14:03 [SPEAKER_02]: We'd like you to do a study of the 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: We want to set up, say, a house across the tertiary, but when the guy, when the sailors out the ships come in to do that thing in the house of the institution, we want you to claim the women to give them LSD unwitting way when they're suddenly confused and you see what this goes. 14:24 [SPEAKER_02]: In that language spoken and now recorded right there for all of your 14:34 [SPEAKER_02]: The tools that were often used in the mind can call experiments, and forening the subjects often, unwittingly, included drugs, hypnotism, 14:48 [SPEAKER_02]: and targeted sexual abuse. 14:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That abuse was used. 14:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Now we have here, this real fashion parlance sounds almost nostalgic. 14:58 [SPEAKER_02]: A sex word, a sex word. 15:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And which goes to being fed the cops and politicians, 15:06 [SPEAKER_02]: But at the heart of it, is this guy the where is he? 15:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He's at Hopkins where several of the professors on that day. 15:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And also in the record books as running, these programs that are using some of the time targeted sexual abuse to send dissociate the mind of victims that they no longer one woman that I know about. 15:29 [SPEAKER_02]: and I'm convinced this is accurate. 15:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I had to have a tattoo on her arm so that when she heard the triggering number or phrase, and lost her ability to know who she was, she would look at her arm to find her address and her phone number. 15:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there were scenarios of this kind of women, and I did, you don't such great lengthy work. 15:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't listen to everything, but I listened very 15:59 [SPEAKER_02]: We're in which the one described being taken to Dr. Richter and men, men, drugs and so men. 16:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Men, men, lins and I listen to all of it and it mesh with everything I have ever heard. 16:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I have got witnesses who were in rooms where abuse victims were managed by a uniformed nurse who gave them a hyper-dermit injection. 16:23 [SPEAKER_02]: and then electro-shock and other kinds of monitored devices were applied to them or they were led into scenarios where they would be deceived into thinking that if they pulled a trigger they would kill someone or they'd kill you right. 16:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's far too much of that. 16:41 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you say, oh my god, are we in outer space here? 16:45 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be the first thought if you don't know about it, 16:50 [SPEAKER_02]: It takes a while and it's green, don't page by page, wine, dine line. 16:55 [SPEAKER_02]: There is no question that the church committee and other committees and investigate and papers especially in New York Times have done the over enough time to show that something was occurring. 17:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is where I do think I have something new that might be of interest. 17:11 [SPEAKER_02]: He has a theory anyway. 17:13 [SPEAKER_02]: In 1991, every world, all of us, including mayor, 17:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Lopping around him, hysterical with excitement. 17:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God, with learned that, well, what is this right, or must be buried all this theft in the gland and only class cemeteria in 1981? 17:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And the ground's keeper comes forward. 17:30 [SPEAKER_02]: The ground's keeper's in the Voldemort sun. 17:33 [SPEAKER_02]: This is quite dead. 17:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what was going on with that. 17:36 [SPEAKER_02]: that I could have buried the entire friend-like loader into that huge old child of masquerade mid-game, and it was in there, I don't know, as long as records and stuff look like things, psychology tests, and history, and we did this with this person, and then she did that, and who's out in there, and who's what the scores are, and what electrical shock 9-01 form, and all this stuff, one of the things he took me years to slowly begin to realize was this. 18:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I know the standard cartoon version of sex abusings especially pedophiles is they love to have folkies and they love to have if they got a pair of underwear from somebody or a photo of a naked woman or something they want that crazy crazy story here's why he put the step in the ground he's part of this ongoing maybe many years 18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: crazy half out of control illegal intelligence apparatus and he's but he's running along his own games around there anybody who's waiting to fight minutes knows he's crazy as a bed bug and the issues to say the least but they at least it never gets to the point where somebody up way high in their organization says they can 19:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're afraid he's put food and stuff somewhere, and he's maybe told them, if I had a car wreck and you'd bet it's not because I was drunk, but maybe it's or a heart attack, here's the map, and the map can take you to the Holy Course Cemetery, and you start at the oak tree, and you draw dotted line 12 feet. 19:21 [SPEAKER_02]: He needed to get all of the data and all of the files that it was involved and whatever was formed that that crap he was doing. 19:30 [SPEAKER_02]: He needed to get it back if he had to. 19:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually heard a native priest who was used to finish it. 19:38 [SPEAKER_02]: What did you blame the narrative? 19:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 19:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't want to pollute. 19:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of things for us. 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to just, yeah, we think there's a lot more buried and holy cross because people's great will move people's families, their parents weren't where they were supposed to be. 19:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So we totally agree with you and we did agree that it was ruined and upslide. 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I think whoever knew the plan when they're destroyed at that very day, but of course that's only my opinion. 20:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to add what they're saying. 20:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to get, you know what I mean? 20:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Jim and I want to just jump in because I had an enormous, I think, an enormous, really important fact to say what you were saying here, you know, I think you probably know this, but I'm sure many listeners don't, and it's here in 1963. 20:28 [SPEAKER_02]: an army sergeant jumped out of a 20th story window and killed himself on the, because of the LSD was taking that he didn't know he was taking, a terrible scandal about all of this began to break, literature helms, then the CIA director, and a huge press conference 20:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Projects. 20:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Want to stand here, Alter? 20:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Project Audit Choke was the name of them. 20:56 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you do with the reality here? 20:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you say to yourself, it's a shame that kids have to go without fear and fears. 21:07 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a shame that girls at a Catholic high school had to be tortured and living in sane until the times it was put at a cold war dynamic. 21:19 [SPEAKER_02]: and the important thing was that the world not, the important thing first was that Hitler not when he didn't. 21:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it was really important that Stalin not when he did. 21:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell us who killed the Stupacry? 21:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Stupacry. 21:37 [SPEAKER_02]: This is my best. 21:39 [SPEAKER_02]: This is my best. 21:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 21:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Your best? 21:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 21:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I am. 21:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I am. 21:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I scale a 1 to 10. 21:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm on a 9, maybe at 8.5, I'll give it a 9. 21:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 9 on a 10. 21:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a Baltimore City Policeman and a weapon was at famous Baltimore Police School, the Espen Tomb. 22:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Her head warms in the autopsy, Sister Kathy. 22:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, Matt, match what many cops have said in the past was the kill weapon on Sister Kathy. 22:13 [SPEAKER_02]: A famous kind of Billy Club on back in the H.L. 22:21 [SPEAKER_02]: In Baltimore, they had a famous saying that if you had one-two many beers at O'Malley's and you got rye-roudy, you might get hit in the head with an Espenny tune. 22:32 [SPEAKER_02]: He asked, he asked, he ate it, and she ate it all, yeah. 22:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a wooden club with a funky little car in it that's ideal for making sure that if a cop hits you with that, you'll know it. 22:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm very interested in observations. 22:49 [SPEAKER_02]: The ones that are caused by an espentoon reportedly match the wounds in the non-scal. 22:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I also have independent information, Maskel had a crew of really nasty guys that he janitors we call them. 23:07 [SPEAKER_02]: If Michael got into a problem, he called on a janitor. 23:11 [SPEAKER_02]: People allegedly, and I underline that advert, allegedly like Edgar Davidson, like allegedly like Smith, Smith, right, and he's a long, very list of days. 23:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And when Maskel got into trouble, 23:27 [SPEAKER_02]: He called for the janitors, the janitors, the janitors agreed to do the janitor work. 23:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember, nobody doubts anymore that Maskel was in the nun's apartment the night before she vanished. 23:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And died. 23:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody denies anymore. 23:44 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fat. 23:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool. 23:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That Maskel was at Kio High School waving a weapon and threatening a couple of kids who knew about some of this. 23:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 23:58 [SPEAKER_02]: That same night that he's in the school, what happens? 24:03 [SPEAKER_02]: The call goes out. 24:04 [SPEAKER_02]: We need janitors. 24:07 [SPEAKER_02]: The nun has by now because I have some sources. 24:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where you are. 24:12 [SPEAKER_02]: They said the nun who had outright told them if he doesn't leave 24:26 [SPEAKER_02]: that the eye or all of the above. 24:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So the call goes out. 24:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We need janitors. 24:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the other priest. 24:34 [SPEAKER_02]: This is an opinion. 24:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to underline allegedly. 24:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I do not know factually, but I would be willing to place a wager on it. 24:41 [SPEAKER_02]: If somebody asked me the wager, but called the poem went out to the priest board for him. 24:47 [SPEAKER_02]: He and his pal. 24:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He 24:55 [SPEAKER_02]: something is readily wrong here. 24:56 [SPEAKER_02]: My God, when I didn't come home from a shopping group with the biscuits and the bread, then the wedding gift and Fedor Center, what could it possibly mean? 25:06 [SPEAKER_02]: But my, I'm almost, I'm nine, I'm nine out of ten. 25:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Those guys don't have. 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And here I found use the Spanish food for honies. 25:16 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the balls to go in there. 25:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Homeblooded. 25:20 [SPEAKER_02]: cash on the barrel head and kill somebody that they've got the smarts they're wildly surfing some of these dudes they got the smarts to call the people who do have that kind of balls kind of guy you call he's the sergeant or the lieutenant 25:35 [SPEAKER_02]: on the police force being for some time has been enjoying all of this by abusing rules in the state house and being out at the holiday and it's on and you know what when he gets over there and some kind of pulls in next to sister Kathy's car 25:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's talking, you're not hearing, oh, blessed be our Lord Jesus. 25:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, please, I must tell you, you're hearing. 25:58 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't regard. 26:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We've heard, I've trusted the wife of a deceased officer who was quite violent. 26:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He has been identified, his picture has been identified by a number of the women. 26:11 [SPEAKER_01]: who were at K.O. 26:13 [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm not at liberty to say who he is, but he actually had certain kind of billy clubs made that were more like torture instruments. 26:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's interesting what you're saying fit into the picture that is forming in my head as well. 26:31 [SPEAKER_00]: For the last question, I'd like to ask you really quick, what is in your attic? 26:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 26:38 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot up there. 26:39 [SPEAKER_02]: There are several stories I've worked over the years. 26:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Some won't liquor short time. 26:43 [SPEAKER_02]: They're up there. 26:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Stories of whistleblowers. 26:45 [SPEAKER_02]: What then? 26:45 [SPEAKER_02]: NSA guy I told you who's boarded, but yeah, you're illegally monitoring bone conversations. 26:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Or the FBI guy who kicked first came forward, he said, you are doctoring lab results in the national FBI lab in order to get convictions, and it is absolutely criminal. 27:06 [SPEAKER_02]: But the biggest story of all that's up in the attic, I want to mention the name. 27:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Jim Nurtar, M-U-R-B-A-G-A. 27:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Nurtar is a University of Michigan medical school graduate. 27:23 [SPEAKER_02]: that he was seeing a pattern that some of the, that who we financed, research projects, or the kickbacks were being taken out of that money, manipulated through the highest levels of Georgia, the other one. 27:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He began meeting with FBI agents, they debriefed him, and on their instruction, he collected all kinds of financial data to support this. 27:52 [SPEAKER_02]: In the middle of it, he was poisoned with arsenic, nearly died, ultimately the Senate majority later and the most powerful, except the governor, figured in the state of Georgia went to prison on 67 felony counts. 28:07 [SPEAKER_02]: and they were able to hit a hole to this. 28:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, research fraud that was taking place. 28:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He slowly builds an admirable coalition of whistleblowers with everybody's free. 28:19 [SPEAKER_02]: All you have to do is Google me, his name, and the stuff will start popping up, and it's story of what happened in Georgia. 28:34 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 29:01 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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