0:08 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 0:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, friend. 0:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Today, Jimmo was part of a press conference in Maryland, along with survivor Donna and SNAP, the survivors network of those abused by priests. 0:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Here, take a listen. 0:47 [SPEAKER_04]: We're here today to discuss the need for transparency and access to the Maryland Attorney General's report about sexual abuse conducted by the priests in the Baltimore or 1:00 [SPEAKER_04]: following brief introductions of our team, and our clients today, Barbara Horr, will discuss the goals we hope to achieve how we will then ask our clients survivors in Connecticut to talk for a few minutes each. 1:17 [SPEAKER_04]: After that, we'll have a question and answer period and then let you get on your way. 1:21 [SPEAKER_04]: First, Barbara Fart, there's the head of Grant Noss and Hawthorne Civil Rights Group, and represent sexual abuse survivors in litigation and before let us better. 1:32 [SPEAKER_04]: She's saying it's an ingredient. 1:34 [SPEAKER_04]: It's senior council agreement, Eisenhower, and it's a resident Baltimore city. 1:38 [SPEAKER_04]: And a former life, Suzanne, worked for the city of Baltimore Department of Law for 12 years. 1:45 [SPEAKER_04]: Death Grant is also a Baltimore resident, leads the complex litigation department at Grant. 1:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Eisenhower, which will maintain office. 1:54 [SPEAKER_04]: litigating complex and coordinated cases, naturally, a significant portion of best practice involves representing survivors of sexual assault and the evaluation clients. 2:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Kate Kernel, my law department, found some traits to practice in representing survivors of sexual and emotional abuse, like people and entities and positions of power who were their victims, representing clients both here and now in the United Nation 2:22 [SPEAKER_04]: So it does the Maryland director for the nonprofit corporation survivors that work of those sexually abused by priests, staff, staff, the most active support group, NASA, they are nationally for women and men wounded by religious and institutional guarded. 2:43 [SPEAKER_04]: Shema Hoskins was a student at Baltimore's Archbishop in Kyoto High School, 2:51 [SPEAKER_04]: and where she was inspired by the Lady Sister Kathy Sussnick to be competition. 2:57 [SPEAKER_04]: Because of Kathy's influence, Gemma had the honor of being the 1992 Merrillan teacher of the year. 3:04 [SPEAKER_04]: Gemma is the central investigative figure in the keepers. 3:08 [SPEAKER_04]: A Netflix documentary about the murder and cover up of Sister Sussnick Steph in 1969, and is a published author on a life experience. 3:19 [SPEAKER_04]: And finally, Donna Bandobov, similarly, is a survivor of the horrors of Archbishop Chio, featured in the Sheepers, Donna believes that the healing process begin with coping us and transparency of whole proceeding. 3:35 [SPEAKER_04]: And she's still sharing her story publicly in the pages of the Baltimore Sun. 3:42 [SPEAKER_04]: As all of you here are not now aware, the Maryland Attorney General conducted a massive investigation, banning some four years on sexual abuse crimes, committed by clergy members of the Archdiocese of Baltimore. 3:56 [SPEAKER_04]: This investigation, which our clients cooperated, culminated in a 456 page report, the report is what we are here to address today. 4:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Inspired by the Netflix documentary, The Keepers, the Man on the Turning General and Bark on this ink-up review of priests and other clergy and Baltimore, who either committed in this crime, of abuse or shielded sexual creditors, butchered they could be moved from power to power. 4:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Survivor for these crimes, including Donna and others, cooperated with the H.E. 4:35 [SPEAKER_04]: and recounted the horrors of their pen. 4:37 [SPEAKER_04]: As a release of the 450 sets period investigations that are considered by the course, these brave individuals together with their client advocates now see transparency. 4:49 [SPEAKER_04]: They want the report release for themselves and all survivors at the part of the class not only for accountability, but for some monochrome of healing. 5:00 [SPEAKER_04]: release of a report validate system that was dynamized as their plan, only when this is outly open, kind of healing, truly began. 5:09 [SPEAKER_04]: At Facebook group, the Gemma and other Starvedas, a place for Kiao Long Island to discuss the of use and sister Kathy Sysnick's unsolved data that has grown to more than a hundred and forty-five thousand members. 5:24 [SPEAKER_04]: This is a test and it's not only the breath of the problem, but also the need for survivors this evening to see answers that you find solidarity. 5:36 [SPEAKER_04]: We anticipate that the report will contain new details about the events at Audz Dish of Kyoto High School in the late 60s and 70. 5:44 [SPEAKER_04]: The Attorney General's Office itself has tasked the courts to allow the release of the grand jury investigation into the Archdiocese of Baltimore. 5:52 [SPEAKER_04]: However, on November 21st, an anonymous group of people who are named in the court, but not due to the views, filed a request that the age-eaten investigation not be relieved. 6:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Part five, stated you with that, and said to a potent, to that end, who will be filing our own papers in court today. 6:14 [SPEAKER_04]: Stay well of an acquires that a judge approved the release of grand jury maturity. 6:19 [SPEAKER_04]: In general terms, 6:20 [SPEAKER_04]: are filing today's seats to ensure the transparency of the report. 6:25 [SPEAKER_04]: Our clients want to voice in that discussion. 6:28 [SPEAKER_04]: Just now, Friday, the Baltimore City Circuit Court judge ordered the case sealed, meaning, hearings and motions that are releasing a report will not be made public. 6:40 [SPEAKER_04]: Accordingly, we will speak about our anticipated filing and general trends only. 6:46 [SPEAKER_04]: But our request that our clients have a voice in this process is the essence of what we are here if they have to keep today. 6:55 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's motion to release the report. 6:57 [SPEAKER_04]: The Maryland heat is off as well, my quote. 7:00 [SPEAKER_04]: because healing is not possible without accountability. 7:04 [SPEAKER_04]: And accountability is not possible without transparency. 7:07 [SPEAKER_04]: The state moved this court for permission to disclose certain information of taking the Iran-Jerry subpoena so that the attorney general, 4506, and your report on clergy of use in Maryland may be made public. 7:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Uncloverly. 7:25 [SPEAKER_04]: Those words could not be more accurate, like the AG, survivors, their families, and their advocates understand it. 7:33 [SPEAKER_04]: The Maryland Crime Victims Resource Center on behalf of two survivors, has also filed a motion asking for the full disclosure of the report with no redash. 7:44 [SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully half of our clients, you support the request of the Maryland AG and the Maryland Crime Victims Resource Center. 7:53 [SPEAKER_04]: And now I'll have Barbara Horth, the head of Grant and Eisenhopper Civil Rights Group to speak for a few moments about our goals. 8:00 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you Rob. 8:01 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for hosting us here today. 8:03 [SPEAKER_11]: Hello, thank you for being in attendance and I echo Rob's sentiment in regards to praising the press coverage of this. 8:11 [SPEAKER_11]: It's important that we all amplify the balance that we're seeking in both a privacy concerns, the legitimate concerns of the grand jury proceedings and the needs of survivors. 8:24 [SPEAKER_11]: And we appreciate the press drawing attention on attending today. 8:29 [SPEAKER_11]: It's a tremendous privilege for me to be shoulder-to-shoulder with our clients, long time advocates for survivors, some themselves survivors. 8:39 [SPEAKER_11]: Gemma, David, Michelle, and Donna. 8:42 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for your work. 8:43 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for your courage. 8:45 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for advocating for child's 8:49 [SPEAKER_11]: From my work in advocating for survivors for the period of time since the sexual limitations was lifted in New York State and in other states where it's been lifted, I have found that for my clients for survivors issues related to secrets, cover-ups, and lack of accountability are profoundly important to this group of trauma survivors. 9:17 [SPEAKER_11]: these people were robbed of all sense of who to trust when they were very young children. 9:24 [SPEAKER_11]: The issue of secrecy that has reared its head in this situation, both vis-a-vis the proceedings and regarding the report has a lot of concerns for this population. 9:39 [SPEAKER_11]: My work in this area came about after decades of reading complex financial litigation when I was approached by friends and family related to abuse that some of them had suffered unbeknownst to me. 9:53 [SPEAKER_11]: Sadly, suicide is the ultimate prize for some who cannot call themselves survivors. 10:02 [SPEAKER_11]: Gepids of carrying the trauma leads to fatigue and stress, constantly on guard, compartmentalizing what happens to them as children in order to go along in life. 10:16 [SPEAKER_11]: The stories that I have heard are many. 10:20 [SPEAKER_11]: One of them that echoes in my head is the call from the man who was weak and telling me how he had never told his late wife. 10:29 [SPEAKER_11]: He was in his 70s, she had died years before, and I was the first person he would ever tell. 10:35 [SPEAKER_11]: These kinds of stories are not uncommon amongst childhood sexual abuse survivors. 10:46 [SPEAKER_11]: they believe they must carry shame for something that of course was completely beyond their control. 10:52 [SPEAKER_11]: Everything we do in relation to these proceedings and these investigations and in our way of healing our society in the face of this scandal must be informed by understanding the nature of this trauma. 11:11 [SPEAKER_11]: It's the trauma that historians the child often they go to people that they love, people that they believe they were brought up to review and look to, and they complain or of confusion as to what's happened to them, and they are disbelieved, they are told to be quiet, they are denied their truth, and their children defenseless in this situation. 11:36 [SPEAKER_11]: We need to let that seep into the way in which we approach these proceedings and in the way in which we approach the release of the January report. 11:50 [SPEAKER_11]: Indeed, in other states before lifting the sexual limitations, the courts have run seminars for the judges in order to allow them to do trauma informed presiding over the proceedings. 12:05 [SPEAKER_11]: in allowing them to come to understand what is unique about child-rich sexual abuse survivors and the way in which they may present their trauma or the way in which it would inform us understanding why these reports from decades ago need to be released publicly in order to 12:31 [SPEAKER_11]: must be lifted in order to address a secret that has been burning for decades. 12:40 [SPEAKER_11]: We encourage the court to consider the life experiences of these survivors from their childhood. 12:48 [SPEAKER_11]: Facebook denials and accusations shamed themselves betrayed by their faith and by the faith that they would be alienating their families from. 12:58 [SPEAKER_11]: They do not know who to trust. 13:02 [SPEAKER_11]: We implore the court and all of us to try to bring compassion to this process and strike a balance so that we can better assure that we will give them comfort and have the sense of being believed and being in a safe space to tell what happened to them. 13:21 [SPEAKER_11]: Our society should no longer tolerate this thing in darkness and this being kept a secret. 13:29 [SPEAKER_11]: Whose interests are served by such a process? 13:35 [SPEAKER_11]: A balance can be struck to assure that the ceiling is not perceived or facilitating a cover-up. 13:44 [SPEAKER_11]: The survivors' day to be heard is soon to come, and the facts will see daylight. 13:51 [SPEAKER_11]: Whatever balance between privacy, grand jury integrity, and the court's prerogative, should be countered by the survivors' interests and that balance must be sought. 14:05 [SPEAKER_11]: The survivor's decade-long struggle to be heard is one of tremendous courage. 14:11 [SPEAKER_11]: They've worked to conform the law to their to the heinous crime that robbed them of their childhood and that they've carried for decades through their lives. 14:22 [SPEAKER_11]: We need to conform the law and the process to this experience that's unique to them and we need to consider. 14:30 [SPEAKER_11]: how you can best address the unique experience that they've suffered. 14:35 [SPEAKER_11]: It is manifestly unjust that the identified persons in the report be able to keep their identities secret. 14:43 [SPEAKER_11]: It is unjust that they have the report as pressing counts accounts in form us and that the survivors themselves are not permitted to see it. 14:53 [SPEAKER_11]: It is also manifestly unjust for the archdiocese to be making statements yet the advocates are to be both deprived of the information and potentially gagged in commenting upon proceedings. 15:08 [SPEAKER_00]: life can get overwhelming and talking to someone can make all the difference. 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Better help, the sponsor of this episode, make starting therapy simple. 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Complete a short questionnaire and you'll be matched with a licensed therapist and as little as a couple of days. 15:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You can connect by message, phone or video, from wherever you feel comfortable. 15:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And if the first therapist isn't the right fit, 15:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Better help include a journal for personal reflection and daily group sessions on a variety of topics and they accept each 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all on a short, generalized experience of what is required for a child to be that can be involved in by a clergy. 16:52 [SPEAKER_03]: The world for a child who is four, ten, or sixteen is innocent, and also in the field was wonderman and thought. 17:00 [SPEAKER_03]: You have implicit trust in your family, your friends, and especially your parents. 17:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And when those people review our priests and clergy, 17:12 [SPEAKER_03]: is transferred to that region, and even amplifying. 17:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Sexual assault, the rate of that child severely damaged in physically, stereotypical, and psychologically. 17:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And that by the trust, as not just broken with the priest, it's also broken with the family and the friends and the terrorists who put trust in the priest. 17:37 [SPEAKER_03]: The child grows in the world 17:42 [SPEAKER_03]: to the place of game. 17:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And in the child road of those fears, and since the betrayal creep into every aspect of their lives, they often turn to drug on our behalf and risk-behaving, and sometimes that they need to suicide, and sometimes death by overdose, accidental death by overdose. 18:01 [SPEAKER_03]: At some point during their growth, because of all of you, they come to realize the deep priests didn't act alone. 18:08 [SPEAKER_03]: They weren't labeled and protected by the Institute. 18:13 [SPEAKER_03]: The only top sense of betrayal, like a truck, brought us to even a larger group. 18:18 [SPEAKER_03]: It's now just not to preach, not to think that being a decent world. 18:23 [SPEAKER_03]: They followed it this fair and they believe that there can be no judge. 18:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And when circumstances work against them, victim is random packs, which occurs on a taker. 18:33 [SPEAKER_03]: You just have to say a day. 18:35 [SPEAKER_03]: That victim is generalized as a, and it feels even more alone and more isolated. 18:41 [SPEAKER_03]: They have learned the world is simply not just the Attorney General of Maryland Washington investigation into this coordinated criminal activity and finally the victim start to feel that just is actually a tentatively reveal what has happened to them to a complete scrumging. 19:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I want each of you to imagine, your deepest darkest, most intramint secret. 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: One that you completely ashamed of. 19:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm having to go to tell that to strangers because that's the right thing to do with it. 19:19 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what Dickens had to go through. 19:22 [SPEAKER_03]: You do it because other victims had told you to go do it and you're believing that, make the train general will raise some judgment. 19:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And you wait for it for a long years. 19:32 [SPEAKER_03]: every month you hope that maybe this is the month that the report will come out of it. 19:38 [SPEAKER_03]: And finally, you read the Detroit General has completed the report in some of the details of being what the valid ancient experience. 19:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And perhaps you believe that the world had its own motto to move the justice and then begins to grow in you inside you. 19:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Then suddenly and inexplicably, that same institution that enabled the priest, 20:00 [SPEAKER_03]: that tends to stop the relief of that report in the most underbanded and devious ways. 20:06 [SPEAKER_03]: All during this time, the same institution danced up and then they pulled bully culprits and mixed proclamations of how transparently they are, how they ate victims, and how they treated them. 20:17 [SPEAKER_03]: They declined to follow the doubtful as you could be crazy, but they turned their backs on the lepers of the dead. 20:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Lepers that didn't infect it. 20:26 [SPEAKER_03]: and my opinion that can be no lower and more stance than the one being taken by the diocese of Baltimore. 20:33 [SPEAKER_03]: What would just as look like? 20:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It would look like the church taking total and complete responsibility for their crimes. 20:40 [SPEAKER_03]: They simply don't do this. 20:42 [SPEAKER_03]: They offer financial support for health problems, come with significant Australian and limitation. 20:48 [SPEAKER_03]: The Bishop claims that he will meet with any letter. 20:53 [SPEAKER_03]: in his office with all the flerical trappings on this flight around him. 20:58 [SPEAKER_03]: These things were afraid of those of flerical trappings. 21:02 [SPEAKER_03]: How is this empathy? 21:04 [SPEAKER_03]: The bishop should be standing outside the residence of each victim begging for that being apologized to them. 21:11 [SPEAKER_03]: What organization do you know that says, yeah, we committed a crime, we raped your kid, you can counter our office, and we will apologize. 21:20 [SPEAKER_08]: There is no other organization that I could think and I'm ashamed for the diocese of Baltimore and for our public athletes and thank you all for being here and regardless of what media venue you represent, I'm going to assure you by no people, right? 21:35 [SPEAKER_08]: So I'm going to assure you that this press conference will go viral on all seven continents by midnight. 21:43 [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. 21:44 [SPEAKER_08]: I'm here today because I am an advocate for survivors of sexual abuse. 21:50 [SPEAKER_08]: You already know I have a big voice and I am honored today to use that voice, especially that for those who have not yet found their own. 22:01 [SPEAKER_08]: For the last four years, I have had the honor to facilitate the contact between the Attorney General's Criminal Investigator and those individuals whose childhoods were stolen by clergy assigned to the Archdiocese at Baltimore. 22:20 [SPEAKER_08]: Most of the individuals who contacted me were terrified, 22:25 [SPEAKER_08]: With the criminal investigator Richard Wolff, we developed a process whereby I would loop them into an introduction with him and be part of an email. 22:39 [SPEAKER_08]: Once the contact was made with Richard, he would take over from there, he met with survivors by phone, virtually one zoo at Panero Restaurant. 22:53 [SPEAKER_08]: He had survivors come to his office if that was convenient. 22:58 [SPEAKER_08]: He oiled some traveled hours in and out of Maryland to talk to survivors of clergy abuse who is abuse happened in the archdiocese at Baltimore. 23:09 [SPEAKER_08]: Richard did his job and he did it well. 23:16 [SPEAKER_08]: We all put a lot of pressure on him. 23:18 [SPEAKER_08]: He was very gracious with us. 23:21 [SPEAKER_08]: What we thought was an intentional stall was him doing his job thoroughly and comprehensively with ultimate confidentiality. 23:33 [SPEAKER_08]: Now there's brave people who inspire their fear, put their names and faces to their stories. 23:41 [SPEAKER_08]: They are faced with the reality than in the eyes of the archdiocese, they are once again less important than their perpetrators. 23:53 [SPEAKER_08]: individuals were named by those survivors who reported to the Attorney General, not only as abusers, but those who were complicit in the abuse, who turned away, remained silent, destroyed 24:16 [SPEAKER_08]: teenage girl, a damn hall pass, to go to see the devil in the chaplain's office. 24:25 [SPEAKER_08]: Now those cowards are being represented by lawyers hired by the Archbishop. 24:35 [SPEAKER_08]: Who's paying the legal fees for the survivors? 24:41 [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna ask you to think about that. 24:46 [SPEAKER_08]: Those who were named, excuse me, my lesson plan on the teacher, the first diocese in the United States is now responsible for almost 100 years of clergy abuse, but for the first time in history, the world has come together 25:08 [SPEAKER_08]: in agreement that we must stop this insanity. 25:13 [SPEAKER_08]: There's been no event in history where more people have agreed on the same thing. 25:19 [SPEAKER_08]: Not 9-11, not the Kennedy assassination and for Pete's sake, not even global warming. 25:26 [SPEAKER_08]: So right now, there are hundreds of thousands of people waiting for me to post that this press conference 25:37 [SPEAKER_08]: The Archdiocese never bargained on the hundreds of thousands of world citizens who viewed the keepers in 125 countries in 25 languages. 25:53 [SPEAKER_08]: You would not believe number of survivors who came forward from every corner of the globe. 26:00 [SPEAKER_08]: We are not a work of fiction as the archdiocese would like you to believe. 26:05 [SPEAKER_08]: We are a tribe of truth tellers and warriors for justice. 26:11 [SPEAKER_08]: I'd like to conclude my remarks by addressing William Laurie directly. 26:18 [SPEAKER_08]: You could have been a hero by exposing all the wrong doings by clergy, pedophiles, who were assigned to the archdiocese of Baltimore. 26:29 [SPEAKER_08]: You could have been a hero by addressing their friends, some in very high places, read between the lines, and often in very low places that neither you or I would step foot in. 26:44 [SPEAKER_08]: But instead, you turned away. 26:46 [SPEAKER_08]: You chose to fall silent and you chose to protect your criminals. 26:52 [SPEAKER_08]: But the mighty army I represent here today is relentless. 26:56 [SPEAKER_08]: We will not go away, sit down or shut up, and most of us believe so that you need to resign. 27:04 [SPEAKER_08]: Thank you. 27:07 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, gentlemen. 27:08 [SPEAKER_04]: Appreciate your comments. 27:10 [SPEAKER_04]: God. 27:11 [SPEAKER_05]: I didn't really have a statement to say, but I come today with my friends, you die because of secrets. 27:21 [SPEAKER_05]: from the diocese, from secrets, from the presiding of the users. 27:28 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was done with the state. 27:31 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you so much. 27:35 [SPEAKER_04]: You said, and if you have questions or well? 27:38 [SPEAKER_09]: I just want to be clear that we don't have a lot of things that are the A, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, M, 27:48 [SPEAKER_09]: And then what does it say is, we don't have a problem with a say, baby, we need to get the higher to avoid it. 27:56 [SPEAKER_09]: So what is it that you all have asked for today as a view for following? 28:02 [SPEAKER_11]: We'll be filing a motion to intervene, so that we'll become parties to the proceedings. 28:07 [SPEAKER_11]: And then once granted, 28:10 [SPEAKER_11]: Standing with them the proceedings, we are going to seek to have the report released. 28:16 [SPEAKER_11]: We want public disclosure of the report. 28:20 [SPEAKER_09]: What does that include? 28:22 [SPEAKER_11]: That the public would get to see all of the materials within the report. 28:28 [SPEAKER_06]: You should all would get copies of that. 28:30 [SPEAKER_06]: It would be for public permit. 28:32 [SPEAKER_07]: When you say, me, our final and most important thing is everyone is assembled here. 28:37 [SPEAKER_11]: So the advocacy groups and the actual clients have retained us and we will be filing at Chambers today, papers in support of the public release. 28:49 [SPEAKER_11]: First we have to file this. 28:51 [SPEAKER_11]: lawyer stuff, but it's motion for intervention so that we are before the court. 28:56 [SPEAKER_11]: And then once before the court, if the court grants the intervention, we are then saying based on the vested interests of the group of clients, we represent, we seek both the closure. 29:10 [SPEAKER_11]: For a reason similar to those we've set forth here, but given the gag order that the court has issued, we will not be publicly 29:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, separate from what we're, we're, to resolve the guests that are involved. 29:25 [SPEAKER_07]: If I'll, but the same kind of, more important in for me. 29:29 [SPEAKER_11]: Yes. 29:31 [SPEAKER_07]: And I'm why I'm doing this, everyone. 29:34 [SPEAKER_11]: We were retained by our clients, and we believe that the more voices, the more strength we know we're stronger together. 29:41 [SPEAKER_11]: We have, we have, snap has retained us. 29:48 [SPEAKER_11]: And Donna, as retained us, and Jama has retained us and Michelle Sam. 29:57 [SPEAKER_09]: So we didn't really do the whole thing. 30:01 [SPEAKER_04]: Who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they, who are they 30:23 [SPEAKER_12]: Do you feel like it's an uphill battle of flying a church still in this endeavor, as far as the transparency issue and what we do, as far in legal sense, to get this done, that maybe you're flying something up in a winnable battle, and you feel that it's on us? 30:37 [SPEAKER_11]: No. 30:38 [SPEAKER_11]: We don't feel that we're fighting an unwindable battle. 30:42 [SPEAKER_11]: We're fighting a long battle, but it is not unwindable. 30:46 [SPEAKER_11]: And the characterization of what you just described in relation to the church taking a public position where it's leaning into its compassionate posture and the teachings that it espoused that many of us were raised with. 31:01 [SPEAKER_11]: is definitely jarring when you experience how it is to litigate against the church in individual cases or in regards to getting the sexual limitations lifted within the legislatures. 31:15 [SPEAKER_11]: We know many children cannot come to terms with speaking their truth about what they experience for decades. 31:23 [SPEAKER_11]: The law needs to recognize that truth. 31:26 [SPEAKER_11]: And our, the sexual limitations, when you go to law school, your taught sexual limitations is about certainty and that entities can move on. 31:36 [SPEAKER_11]: So you put a time limit on things. 31:38 [SPEAKER_11]: So defendants can move on. 31:41 [SPEAKER_11]: We need to strike a different balance in the reality that survivors take a long time to come to terms. 31:49 [SPEAKER_11]: often with speaking about this, 50s, 60s and 70s and older. 31:55 [SPEAKER_11]: I have clients who have never told anyone and it's horrific what they've carried. 32:01 [SPEAKER_11]: So the contrast between the public position and the reality of what the church often does is stark when you experience it. 32:11 [SPEAKER_11]: The reconciliation programs 32:19 [SPEAKER_09]: But the people who are protagonists, the people who are laying on us and documenting more, what could be the purpose of that and things aren't accused of being said to me. 32:36 [SPEAKER_11]: We could only speculate, given the fact that we don't know their identities. 32:40 [SPEAKER_11]: that's a concern, right? 32:41 [SPEAKER_11]: That's not the world in which we live. 32:43 [SPEAKER_11]: We don't want to throw out theories about what I was trying to suggest is that if you're a survivor of childhood sexual abuse and it's been in the shadows for decades, you know, the basic distrust for secrecy and darkness, and we in the words of Justice Grant Sunshine is the greatest disinfectant, and did I butcher it? 33:06 [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, well, there you go. 33:09 [SPEAKER_11]: In any of that, it could be that they facilitated it could be they observed, it could be that it's a survivor who does not want to be identified. 33:20 [SPEAKER_11]: We don't know. 33:21 [SPEAKER_11]: And we respect that some survivors won't want to be identified. 33:25 [SPEAKER_11]: We're talking about striking 33:35 [SPEAKER_09]: So this may be well for just adding to the faculty to release is not going to come up. 33:45 [SPEAKER_11]: Just as your coverage of this issue amplifies the need for transparency, so does our filing. 33:55 [SPEAKER_10]: And if I could just add to that, the turning of the general motion as before they didn't impress, 34:00 [SPEAKER_10]: seeks to disclose kids' report, adapting the 13 meanings of the newly named church official who are out of total 25 years ago is in the attorney general report. 34:17 [SPEAKER_10]: And so those things are redapted from what the attorney general seeks to disclose to the public. 34:23 [SPEAKER_10]: And we support the attorney general in its motion 34:30 [SPEAKER_10]: And I would just now figure out that theme of hypocrisy of the position that Archbishop Lori has taken his statements to the press, he says his art's diagnosis is paying for lawyers. 34:46 [SPEAKER_10]: four summer, all of these 13, because they have been named, but they are not accused of sexual abuse. 34:54 [SPEAKER_10]: The intern general's motion, as recorded in the brass states, that they have been named as perpetrators of sexual abuse. 35:05 [SPEAKER_08]: Could I also address the question that you had about the anonymous group just from my personal experience and talking to survivors who they think I'm like Dr. lawyer everything and I'm not I just know where to send them right so they get in touch with me their stories including many people who were complicit or who facilitated the abuse. 35:27 [SPEAKER_08]: for or with or about a perpetrator. 35:31 [SPEAKER_08]: I've talked to some of my friends and we said we could spend my next two hours naming all those people. 35:37 [SPEAKER_08]: It's not going to be a surprise to me who they are. 35:39 [SPEAKER_08]: My first reaction was since they know who they are now. 35:43 [SPEAKER_08]: They probably had it all down to the airport and there in the Caribbean or they've gone somewhere. 35:49 [SPEAKER_08]: They're not going to hang around at 35:52 [SPEAKER_08]: huge number, like lots and lots of people who know about this and who facilitated or observed. 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Could it be the alleged in eight words that are seeking maintaining their privacy and does it concern you with all that would have had their day in court so to speak to 36:20 [SPEAKER_10]: And we don't know what their purpose is, but they have not their, what the AG seeks to disclose and its report is not their names. 36:32 [SPEAKER_10]: They have not been exonerated. 36:34 [SPEAKER_10]: They have been named as a group of traders. 36:36 [SPEAKER_10]: And we have also asked, in our way into a neighborhood, I'm sorry. 36:41 [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, many of yours can be accessories and clients. 36:46 [SPEAKER_10]: And so they might be indictable as well. 36:49 [SPEAKER_10]: And he hopes that we are asking report also to affirm the AG report back to the standing ranch jury to investigate and make recommendations about what indictment should issue. 37:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So there is no statute of limitations for that. 37:07 [SPEAKER_10]: That remains to be seen. 37:10 [SPEAKER_10]: We haven't seen a report so we can make that kind of analysis at this point. 37:14 [SPEAKER_10]: But that's something that the stranded standing rancherry, or the in-coming turning general, or the in-coming city state's attorney, is certainly well qualified to analyze. 37:25 [SPEAKER_10]: And we hope that, in fact, that's a little issue. 37:28 [SPEAKER_09]: So who would have been a little seated, which worked? 37:30 [SPEAKER_10]: No, but a parent's standing is that the attorney jet in the office, the court, and the archionsist of Baltimore, 37:42 [SPEAKER_10]: And apparently, these 13 anonymous, some of whom have are represented by great friends team and Wayne Murphy and have filed a motion seal promotion. 37:54 [SPEAKER_10]: They at least know and not about the record to know that they are implicated in it, so that they have filed a motion. 38:02 [SPEAKER_10]: We don't know if they've actually seen record itself. 38:05 [SPEAKER_11]: Yes, we agree. 38:06 [SPEAKER_11]: The juxtaposition of them having access to it and the survivors not. 38:12 [SPEAKER_11]: If I'm reading your face correctly, it's deeply troubling. 38:16 [SPEAKER_09]: So that is going on. 38:18 [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, how is it going to happen? 38:21 [SPEAKER_06]: You're asking us, but that's precisely the question that we're asking the court to address. 38:26 [SPEAKER_06]: That's 18. 38:28 [SPEAKER_09]: There are conducts, what's the difference? 38:35 [SPEAKER_06]: correct. 38:37 [SPEAKER_09]: But this is, cannot see that is correct. 38:41 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make any sense at all. 38:46 [SPEAKER_09]: So you're giving the people, so they're giving a people, meaning, they allegedly committed the crimes, in remanation, so they can try to abandon them. 39:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Somebody asked a question earlier about that I feel like we were losing battle against the church, and I had to say it so much you could say yes, that was the way initial reaction as I said we lost another that was I just dropped in and that's a lot of the same when I was reading this we dropped in and felt just okay that again would be a screw. 39:21 [SPEAKER_03]: one more night, I didn't judge. 39:23 [SPEAKER_03]: They have the report. 39:24 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't, you don't even have to fight it. 39:27 [SPEAKER_11]: But when the survivors are discouraged, then it's time for their lawyers to cheer them on. 39:34 [SPEAKER_11]: And that's what we do. 39:37 [SPEAKER_11]: And the survivors are often discharged because they have not been heard often since they were children. 39:43 [SPEAKER_11]: The numbers of stories of little boys going into the confessional 39:50 [SPEAKER_11]: something he thought he should be ashamed of and being thrown out of the confessional being called a liar. 39:57 [SPEAKER_11]: Not once. 39:58 [SPEAKER_11]: This is, this is, it's so where did they turn? 40:01 [SPEAKER_11]: There are many discouraging days in this journey, but failure is not an option, as they say. 40:09 [SPEAKER_11]: For all of us, our society cannot accept this. 40:15 [SPEAKER_12]: Well, do you also want to be archdiocese to stop paying these to you in the world that you don't want to disclose? 40:20 [SPEAKER_12]: Did you ask that they say what they mean, that they don't want to witness this process that they should back off on. 40:28 [SPEAKER_08]: Let's vote. 40:31 [SPEAKER_06]: We, I think there's a tension. 40:33 [SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, people are entitled to legal defense. 40:36 [SPEAKER_06]: I personally, I think we agree that the archdiocese should not be supporting it on the one hand when they're advocating, they've saying that they don't have a problem with public disclosure, but then they're, 40:47 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, they're helping the people who are trying to prevent the public disclosure, even though as Suzanne said, the attorney general has afforded protections and made certain reductions, so that information is going to be not all the information will be public. 41:04 [SPEAKER_06]: But we'll be public, our names of the individuals that the attorney general found. 41:09 [SPEAKER_06]: that there were credible allegations against and have named as perpetrators. 41:14 [SPEAKER_06]: So we don't believe that the archdiocese should be supporting any endeavor to further silence the survivors who cooperated in this investigation with a lot of personal pain. 41:26 [SPEAKER_06]: that was entailed and having to relive their memories and not having access now to the product. 41:33 [SPEAKER_06]: It was the fruit of this investigation while the archdiocese apparently has had it for weeks. 41:39 [SPEAKER_06]: It's just manifestly unjust. 41:42 [SPEAKER_04]: It perhaps it goes without saying, but we paid for this report. 41:50 [SPEAKER_04]: You all even were this report. 41:52 [SPEAKER_04]: They should learn on text on us, right, that came forward, that funded the book, did this investigation. 41:59 [SPEAKER_04]: We're trying to copy that, who worked on, we aren't able to see it, just as anybody else should be entitled to see something publicly, publicly funded available. 42:09 [SPEAKER_02]: What are the steps you journey through? 42:11 [SPEAKER_02]: One thing that's required to hold was how it was here to join. 42:16 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't even be in one of that when you're thinking about where we are as a country, what the acceptance from life they were on, and they're all coming to you. 42:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's got for me. 42:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And what is a victory for me, while what it comes to change in the United States? 42:31 [SPEAKER_02]: That really also will help when it's nice to be there. 42:37 [SPEAKER_02]: 60s and thanks to a documentary on Netflix, which has, what does that, what is accountability and low blood moving forward to be proactive in preventing these things from happening? 42:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It calls you a lot, and we'll take care of what? 42:50 [SPEAKER_08]: How much time do we have? 42:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big thing. 42:54 [SPEAKER_05]: All you gotta do is wind me up. 42:56 [SPEAKER_05]: You guys know that. 42:57 [SPEAKER_05]: I want to say something to that. 42:59 [SPEAKER_05]: We live in a new society. 43:03 [SPEAKER_05]: We want everyone to be good. 43:06 [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone to come forward and receive help that needs help. 43:11 [SPEAKER_05]: And that's why I am here today. 43:14 [SPEAKER_08]: What we need to happen as you asked, we need a lot of education, we need parents to have really tough conversations with their little children about being alone with adults. 43:27 [SPEAKER_08]: They don't know or that they're not comfortable with. 43:30 [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm a teacher so that's a priority for me. 43:32 [SPEAKER_08]: We need to make sure that reporting process is well in the place. 43:37 [SPEAKER_08]: I tell people do not call the archdiocese. 43:40 [SPEAKER_08]: You call the attorney general's office. 43:42 [SPEAKER_08]: You call 911. 43:44 [SPEAKER_08]: You get yourself an attorney and a therapist. 43:47 [SPEAKER_08]: We need indictments. 43:49 [SPEAKER_08]: That's going to speak volumes, because some of these people are still living. 43:54 [SPEAKER_08]: These perpetrators are 13 priests that are still living who abuse children. 44:00 [SPEAKER_08]: And I've talked to people who were abused when they were three years old, and they remember it like it was yesterday. 44:08 [SPEAKER_08]: Movies made with them in blindfolds with teenage bull. 44:13 [SPEAKER_08]: You have no idea of the horror stories. 44:16 [SPEAKER_08]: So we need indictments, we need arrests, we need charges, we need convictions, and we need incarceration. 44:23 [SPEAKER_08]: And the archdiocese has said that X number of priests or clergy have been prosecuted, not to accurate. 44:31 [SPEAKER_08]: They've been kicked out of the church, or they've had their faculties removed. 44:35 [SPEAKER_08]: A few have been prosecuted, one that you know of well was Maurice Blackwell. 44:40 [SPEAKER_08]: and he appealed and got out and then he went shot his accuser, Dante Stoke, so he now imprisoned for that. 44:47 [SPEAKER_08]: So none of this makes sense. 44:48 [SPEAKER_08]: There are so many things that have to happen. 44:51 [SPEAKER_08]: Think that right now to make sure the accountability happens with names, trials, places, I don't drive. 45:01 [SPEAKER_08]: I live three hours away. 45:03 [SPEAKER_08]: You don't think I'm going to get one of you to 45:07 [SPEAKER_08]: I will be in the first row championing my friends. 45:11 [SPEAKER_08]: So the list is very long about what will make a difference, but this first step that we're all making with this wonderful team, legal team, is critical to making that begin. 45:23 [SPEAKER_08]: The other thing, as I alluded to, I didn't, I said it right, so we need to have religious leaders who have integrity and I'm so sick of the word transparency, 45:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And you didn't lose to the first crack at, well, here's really some five of you guys. 45:42 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, remember, it's also going to have a school. 45:46 [SPEAKER_02]: This kind of this hard, big structure that is the art of the ISC, and they'll take care of them, where we keep this, you think, sacred, and it million causes this power struggle between religion. 45:57 [SPEAKER_02]: and real mortality and Wisconsin wants to be filled with being the die. 46:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to ensure that people don't believe in the support and other people. 46:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a perfect thing. 46:08 [SPEAKER_08]: Faith and religion are two different things. 46:11 [SPEAKER_08]: Okay. 46:12 [SPEAKER_08]: I was raised Catholic. 46:13 [SPEAKER_08]: I had nuns for 12 years. 46:15 [SPEAKER_08]: I don't practice my Catholic faith. 46:18 [SPEAKER_08]: but I sit on the beach every day and I look at the sky and nobody can explain that. 46:23 [SPEAKER_08]: Science can't explain the sky. 46:25 [SPEAKER_08]: That's enough for me. 46:26 [SPEAKER_08]: Faith and religion are totally separate. 46:29 [SPEAKER_08]: I do believe that this is a really critical move. 46:32 [SPEAKER_08]: We've had some. 46:33 [SPEAKER_08]: The Netflix series was the first big stab at that. 46:37 [SPEAKER_08]: And as I said before, this press conference, I'm making an audio recording of it. 46:42 [SPEAKER_08]: It's going to go viral in all seven continents, including Antarctica by midnight. 46:47 [SPEAKER_08]: So the archdiocese has no idea what they're up against because we seriously have the world on our side. 46:55 [SPEAKER_08]: We are not going anywhere. 46:57 [SPEAKER_08]: We are going to fight this to the end. 46:59 [SPEAKER_08]: And I just turned 70. 47:01 [SPEAKER_08]: And you know what, if this is how I've been the last quarter of my life, I am honored to do it. 47:07 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, so we're going to have one last day. 47:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So David's never will wrap up. 47:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a dress 47:17 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the change to involve the loss of where I'm in child sector. 47:22 [SPEAKER_03]: If we have structural limitations, we are statual with actions in Maryland, 20 years ago. 47:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And those these people are covered by that, right? 47:28 [SPEAKER_03]: There's not three years. 47:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Then it three years. 47:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think it's out of the component? 47:34 [SPEAKER_03]: We have to change the statute in the fiction that are taken all the way across the country. 47:39 [SPEAKER_03]: we need to turn general investigations, not integer, not just into the caricature, but into all institutions. 47:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And we know the voice gets to it, right? 47:47 [SPEAKER_03]: So we need to have an irony like the C. Investigation. 47:51 [SPEAKER_03]: When they're done in several other countries, like Australia, Ireland, and Europe, where they've done a national investigation into institutional child sexual abuse. 48:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And those are the kinds of things on a national level that they need to be done. 48:04 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what that would look like. 48:06 [SPEAKER_04]: We'd like to thank you all for coming. 48:08 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to hand out a press release that we have. 48:11 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's what we'll give you a copy of the way out. 48:13 [SPEAKER_04]: Certainly, if you've had any questions, you can direct them to me or I'm a one of the turning members here. 48:18 [SPEAKER_04]: We thank you for your time today. 48:20 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you for coming. 48:20 [SPEAKER_04]: I'll be informed just so you're going to change. 48:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 48:23 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you for coming. 48:24 [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you. 48:35 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for watching.
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