0:11 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you. 0:30 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Theresa Lynn Kester. 0:34 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm an attorney on the survivor and I'm an advocate for those who be in sexual. 0:40 [SPEAKER_07]: I was abused in 1972 at Archbishop Kiel Heiss. 0:47 [SPEAKER_07]: My father, Maskel. 0:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I was featured in the documentary The Keepers, which exposed a huge sex ring at Archbishop Kiel Heiss. 0:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I was unable, come forward, about my abuse in the 70s, because Father Maslow convinced me that no one would believe me, and he threatened me with his gun, on every session he would have to go now on the table. 1:15 [SPEAKER_07]: I feared for my life. 1:18 [SPEAKER_07]: This is common among survivors. 1:21 [SPEAKER_07]: The support Greek reign supports that 20% of survivors fear retaliation. 1:28 [SPEAKER_07]: That is a reason for not coming forward. 1:31 [SPEAKER_07]: I struggle back. 1:33 [SPEAKER_07]: Buzzer was one that I trusted. 1:36 [SPEAKER_07]: And he had respect of the entire Munich. 1:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Survivors took typically take years to cut forward. 1:44 [SPEAKER_07]: The severe nature of the trauma endured, coupled with high social positions, often held by the abusers, prevents survivors from falling forward early. 1:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Other facts, oppression, and substance abuse. 2:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Studies show the average range of disclosure is 52, and the reasons for the delay are specific to the individual. 2:10 [SPEAKER_07]: In 1994, when Gene and I came forward and started our civil suit, we quickly realized the institution we held our trust in would again betray us. 2:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Cardinal killer, new, the case was credible, but he used the statute of limitations to make our 2:29 [SPEAKER_07]: betrayal of the trusted institution as another difficult layer onto the trauma of abuse. 2:36 [SPEAKER_07]: For these reasons, I urge the committee to issue a favoring report for House Bill 974. 2:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 2:46 [SPEAKER_07]: But afternoon, my name is Jennifer Gross. 2:49 [SPEAKER_07]: I stand before you or sit before you a parent, 2:59 [SPEAKER_07]: mother of two boy scouts, former diocesan coordinator of safe environments, from our chair of a regional review board for the Catholic Church to review reports of clergy abuse. 3:12 [SPEAKER_07]: I am here today, that to talk to you about what child sexual abuse does to the victims you've heard that already, to stress to you that when a child is sexually abused by one person, it's devastating, that is one person that views them as trash, and not as a human being worthy of dignity and respect. 3:31 [SPEAKER_07]: For a worse than is when an entire institution turns on that victim, for now it is not one 3:43 [SPEAKER_07]: This bill, before you today, is not against any one-insistitution, as previously testified by another committee member, Catholics, as far as we know, have committed only about 4% of all abuse. 3:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Shame on my church. 4:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Shame on my church, for being the leading opponent to this. 4:05 [SPEAKER_07]: Shame on them. 4:07 [SPEAKER_07]: I am the direct descendant of Archbishop William Gross, who was first ordained in Baltimore. 4:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I will tell you as a certified sex vendor, treatment provider who has worked in the field for 26 years. 4:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I only worked in clinical agencies that polygraph defenders. 4:25 [SPEAKER_07]: In 18 years, I met one person 4:32 [SPEAKER_07]: The majority of offenders had many, some up over 900. 4:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Sitting on a regional review board of clergy offenders, I once heard of a man who sexually abused a four-year-old boy, his 13-year-old niece and raped an old woman in 4:54 [SPEAKER_07]: Where is that man now? 4:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Mexico. 4:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Why? 4:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Because apparently the church finds the United States rapidly anti-redemptive. 5:03 [SPEAKER_07]: How can I still call myself a Catholic? 5:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Because this is my church too. 5:09 [SPEAKER_07]: And I will not allow it to only be represented by people. 5:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Go defend the undefensible. 5:23 [SPEAKER_07]: to protect my children raise your hand if you leave your children with no will hurt. 5:32 [SPEAKER_07]: No one. 5:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Don't do that to my children. 5:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Open this door at justice for survivors. 5:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Open this door of justice for survivors which in turn provides safety to our children for 5:51 [SPEAKER_07]: eliminating the statute of limitation exposes predators? 5:55 [SPEAKER_07]: We did not know or stem among us and are a danger. 5:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Please open this door to justice and protect my children, your children, and all our children. 6:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Hello, my name is David Chappelle, I'm from the American City of America for 17 years and we have five children. 6:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The two sons are 13 and 11, our daughters are 9 and 7 and 2. 6:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We attend Mass every Sunday at St. Louis in Clark, raise our family in the Catholic. 6:30 [SPEAKER_01]: On year today to testify in support of 8th B974, which will help countless others to receive justice in court. 6:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I am proof that repressed memory is a real thing. 6:41 [SPEAKER_01]: My goal is to advocate for those who have not yet recalled their abuse. 6:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm 42. 6:46 [SPEAKER_01]: The last day, 2019, called by abuse that happened when I was nine years old, in 1986. 6:56 [SPEAKER_01]: My mind or body or God wasn't ready for me to re-experience the trauma until then. 7:03 [SPEAKER_01]: My recall process was slow, in months fully crystallized, I was extremely pain and debilitating. 7:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I was a shell of a person. 7:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I break down all my memories in this book through my therapy. 7:15 [SPEAKER_01]: This book is filled with awful memories from a lost child. 7:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought of suicide numerous times over the last year. 7:23 [SPEAKER_01]: There's only because of my therapist, my medications, and the tremendous love and support from my family that I'm here to do. 7:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be diagnosed on it, close to that post-traumatic stress disorder, but I'm so fortunate that my employer and understanding of my needs of a person with a disability, yes, I do now have a disability. 7:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Therapy is costless over $10,000 in this one year alone, a huge financial strain. 7:51 [SPEAKER_01]: My abuser was father Will and Brown. 7:53 [SPEAKER_01]: He pled guilty and was convicted in 2018 to child abuse and rape two boys in 1987 and 1988 in Savannah, Georgia. 8:02 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the only reason that they could try him in 2018 was because some of the crimes occurred in South Carolina, which has no statute of limitations to our prosecution. 8:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Father Brown sexually abused me in 1986 in Gettinburg, Maryland at St. Roosevelt, Lima, Paris. 8:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He was at St. Luke's Institute of Belitation, relating to prior sexual abuse allegation. 8:26 [SPEAKER_01]: He was allowed to volunteer in my CCD classes, and it tended to church events. 8:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He was playful, charismatic, but friendly smile. 8:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking back, he was sick and sinister. 8:35 [SPEAKER_01]: He used God as a way to pray on children. 8:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Our entire community had blind faith in this man because he was a priest and he abused that for which, other brown taught me special ways to pretty good, special sacraments to consume, and there was even a way you could take God directly by putting your mouth on a certain male prider. 8:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I was nine years old being abused by a priest, but to me at the time it was a special form 9:02 [SPEAKER_01]: one time father Brown even threatened me with a gun. 9:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I asked why do you have a gun? 9:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He said so I can be sure that I won't tell anybody about what was about the hat. 9:14 [SPEAKER_01]: As when he saw him on a plaque down from the pain but when I woke up he had me say the Hail Mary prayer. 9:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I could barely 9:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Later that same day he asked me to leave with him to go to George, but he had believed soon. 9:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I said no, family just moved here, I can't go with you. 9:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Sickens mean to think now what happened very next in the next months, years in Georgia, the South Carolina. 9:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He did not take me to Georgia, but he took so much of my innocent. 9:42 [SPEAKER_01]: He introduced me also to another priest who also sexually abused me in 1986. 9:51 [SPEAKER_01]: After a time of transition at St. Rose, a new priest followed Dougon with a signed door parish like, holding him about what had happened. 9:57 [SPEAKER_01]: He did nothing. 9:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I was never abused again sexually, but my mental abuse continued when nothing happened. 10:03 [SPEAKER_01]: My brain went into survival mode in order to operate and function as a normal teenager and adult. 10:09 [SPEAKER_01]: My brain had to suppress the trauma that I experienced. 10:13 [SPEAKER_01]: This is my sworn testimony under up. 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: There are many more stories to be told, for all those who have been abused, who haven't called their abuse yet, I urge you to support. 10:23 [SPEAKER_01]: HP 974. 10:25 [SPEAKER_01]: This abuse was an attack on my faith, my body, my soul, and my mind, allowing myself to remember and relive these events at a catastrophic event on my life and my family, however, I am a survivor. 10:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And I am starting the heal. 10:40 [SPEAKER_01]: For some survivors of abuse, part of our healing process is to receive justice support. 10:46 [SPEAKER_01]: We deserve this opportunity, 10:51 [SPEAKER_01]: regardless of when they decide to start. 10:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 10:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Look at that, my name is Paul. 10:58 [SPEAKER_07]: We're from the Legal Director of Child Justice. 11:00 [SPEAKER_07]: I have my organization. 11:01 [SPEAKER_07]: We are here to support of this bill. 11:03 [SPEAKER_07]: And for the things that we'll report, we've heard so much a powerful testimony. 11:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Those in the wrong, so many people are still feeling the lack of us is that they're facing right now. 11:14 [SPEAKER_07]: We do encourage this passage. 11:17 [SPEAKER_07]: And again, the topic, for gamers, 11:19 [SPEAKER_07]: It's a very interesting path against a very strong powerful issue, but it's really an individual issue. 11:24 [SPEAKER_07]: That's a new stick. 11:25 [SPEAKER_07]: And that's up to visual to side, the wish to end up with my own face. 11:32 [SPEAKER_07]: Gimmace is absolutely urged, but also it was a tone, the one most of the tone for Lucien's. 11:37 [SPEAKER_07]: I've sold half for Gimmace, but still has personally held responsible point to the Terry Anderson case, where he did forgive this chapter, but he also sued them, because I was in the 26th of dollars. 11:49 [SPEAKER_07]: So I keep that in mind that while he was in the forgiveness, he also was responsible from the rack. 11:55 [SPEAKER_07]: So again, we urge Gordon of this bill. 11:59 [SPEAKER_07]: I am Tarkeye Myers, I'm the director of the Center for Children in Charles County, Maryland, and I'm the field of child abuse, both victims and offenders for about 35 years. 12:08 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to talk to you from the tip of the vendor. 12:11 [SPEAKER_07]: If I'm a sex offender, I grew me. 12:13 [SPEAKER_07]: I make sure that you trust me completely. 12:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I make sure I grew, if I'm a sex offender, everybody around you. 12:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So that if you happen to spill the beans on me, they will not believe that 12:26 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a sex offender, I make sure that you think it's your fault. 12:31 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a sex offender, I make sure that all of the systems where I'm worth will protect you as well. 12:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I make sure if I'm a sex offender that if I'm caught, you'll allow me to resign. 12:43 [SPEAKER_02]: But thought you'd firing me for cause that would be in my record. 12:47 [SPEAKER_02]: If I was that's the vendor, I put in this wonderful evaluation if I do get caught the people that you pay to evaluate me. 12:57 [SPEAKER_02]: What a wonderful person I am and how I couldn't possibly have done this. 13:04 [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm a sex offender, I know what I'm doing. 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I pick by victims very carefully. 13:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And I go to places and institutions where I have access to lots of children who if they tell on me will not be believed, will be covered up, will be dismissed, and I will be protected. 13:22 [SPEAKER_02]: That's if I'm a sex offender. 13:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I know that I'm speaking to people in this room who have not come forward, probably about 10 to 15 just based on the numbers and if people in this panel who are in those same shoes as well. 13:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Please protect our victims because about 5% of cases are prosecuted primarily and of the 5% that are prosecuted are 5% of victims come forward to authority's as kids and about 7% of those cases, prosecution. 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So that is not the remedy for the victims that we're talking about. 13:56 [SPEAKER_07]: Madam Vice Chair, members of the committee, I'm Kathleen Hope, I'm a professor at the University Maryland Carey School of Law. 14:02 [SPEAKER_07]: It's a mid-expense of British testimony, but it's less the summer of the undercurrent legal issue. 14:07 [SPEAKER_07]: That police shall hang out, my student, the testified about. 14:10 [SPEAKER_07]: So I won't reiterate those, but we do talk fair about the stutch pose issue, the tensile for false claims and why that should not be concerned here as well as the fairness of sovereign immunity and the role that plays in our state. 14:23 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to just just two points and then make personal comment. 14:26 [SPEAKER_07]: First is why criminal prosecution is not enough and delegate will also spoke to the availability of comprehensive discovery during the civil process and that he's absolutely right. 14:36 [SPEAKER_07]: The other point is that prosecutors exercise discretion in the cases that they bring and they have massively limited resources. 14:45 [SPEAKER_07]: So when they're faced with cases that have occurred in the last 90 days, or two months, or three years, maybe they're going to allocate those resources accordingly, and not be able to put the resource on the investigation and gathering of evidence, the process of case that is at Hades old. 15:03 [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't mean they don't care. 15:05 [SPEAKER_07]: It means they don't have the resources to do that work. 15:09 [SPEAKER_07]: So that's another reason, 15:11 [SPEAKER_07]: The other issue is, again, relates to statute of proposed. 15:15 [SPEAKER_07]: It really is not a statute of proposed. 15:17 [SPEAKER_07]: But your lawyers, you learned about it to study for the bar exam. 15:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Come talk to me because I had to relearn it for this bill as well. 15:23 [SPEAKER_07]: The last point I want to make is that I was born and this is personal. 15:26 [SPEAKER_07]: I was born and raised Catholic. 15:27 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm a member of the Church of the Netivity. 15:29 [SPEAKER_07]: in Lutherville, Maryland, I'm extremely out of my church and what we accomplish every day. 15:35 [SPEAKER_07]: What I've been taught since I was little, is that the church is not a building. 15:39 [SPEAKER_07]: It is most certainly not a corporation. 15:41 [SPEAKER_07]: It is the people. 15:43 [SPEAKER_07]: This bill is not opposed by the people that are the church. 15:47 [SPEAKER_07]: This bill is supported. 15:49 [SPEAKER_07]: And we will always stand whether there is money left or not because we are the church. 15:55 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 15:59 [SPEAKER_07]: You're right, you're coming into the test of India with the remedy and the resources with the situation being that planes or certain, you see, one year, one year, big. 16:18 [SPEAKER_07]: Are you talking about if the state were to win its liability? 16:22 [SPEAKER_07]: That's in the proposed amendment, I understand. 16:25 [SPEAKER_07]: So right now, the state has an action from liability under the state for clean, so there's a limitation of what you can file a claim in how much you cover. 16:35 [SPEAKER_07]: I do believe that there are amendments that report to eliminate sovereign immunity, legally, with respect to these claims. 16:42 [SPEAKER_07]: I had in my time, I saw the first time this morning. 16:46 [SPEAKER_07]: My claim is that if you read our testimony, there's a reason to treat the state and corporations and not proud for organizations differently. 16:53 [SPEAKER_07]: A sovereign immunity has a long basis in our law to protect the public fist and not to discourage people from exercising governmental discretion. 17:02 [SPEAKER_07]: And that's very different than when we look at a corporate entity or a, there is a reason to treat the state. 17:11 [SPEAKER_07]: Same thing, near corporation. 17:15 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's the good thing. 17:17 [SPEAKER_07]: I see nothing in the amendments or in this legislation. 17:22 [SPEAKER_07]: So, we personally, I don't see any reason to cap with the damages here. 17:25 [SPEAKER_07]: Individuals still have to demonstrate what their civil damages are, and you've heard there's so many people today about what those damages may be. 17:34 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think anyone here thinks that $1 or $10 million is going to cure what happens to them, but I don't think we should institute artificial limitations on their recovery. 17:46 [SPEAKER_07]: person in the committee. 17:47 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Ken Salves, Ripth, Sparrowling, Ripth, and he, and though they might just keep calling for you a lot of times in here's life. 17:56 [SPEAKER_07]: This wouldn't be a little speak on his scoring. 17:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Our strong support has a little, has a, has a, has a. I'm referring back to testimony by one of your older panels. 18:08 [SPEAKER_07]: It would really strongly love this barrel and also bring things as we've heard, the healing takes time. 18:17 [SPEAKER_07]: And even my role is to take the day of relating the stories to the came-to-mimes for the Petaphyl scandal first of years, an older gentleman in Paris, and he couldn't even speak to squint, as he left the only thing he would say was, I had an altar boy and told him, and this was a gentleman that married his daughter, right, I used this 18:46 [SPEAKER_07]: just to see that, that was years ago, as recently a jester colleague who knew I was coming your test, so could, that was real, real silent, right? 18:58 [SPEAKER_07]: The most could be insane was, you know. 19:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Healing takes time, but so does justice. 19:06 [SPEAKER_07]: And we need to remove every barrier to allow that healing. 19:15 [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's not or can not cut on any acid, but let's note this abuse. 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[SPEAKER_00]: Taking care of your mental health is a sign of strength. 20:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Start your journey today. 20:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I was 70 years old, my name is Frank Sinley, I live in Baltimore. 20:38 [SPEAKER_03]: When I was in kindergarten in the fall of 19th, war at the age of I, I was sexually abused, raised several times a week, approximately six months. 20:49 [SPEAKER_03]: At that age, the ability to process and understand what is going on around you is limited under any circumstances, much less than circumstances that are painful and dramatic. 21:00 [SPEAKER_03]: And this abuse is being perpetrated by an individual you are told is the representative of God on her, and must be listened to and obey, to speak out or even acknowledge the abuse as simply young. 21:14 [SPEAKER_03]: It's such times neurological structures in the brain to steal you from those memories and part by suppressing and fragment. 21:21 [SPEAKER_03]: But those protections themselves influence and distort your life, and there is no deadline or a cotton pickle, how the brain operates or change. 21:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I first came forward when I was here at Sol. 21:35 [SPEAKER_03]: For years, I struggled with the consequences of the abuse with the guilt and shame of being bad and the belief that I need, on it. 21:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I've had to deal with depression, the feeling that I was not worth much of anything no matter what I did or what I may have. 21:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I repeatedly questioned my right to light, doing things that ultimately caused me harm. 21:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And when years of therapy begin to bear through, when you slowly begin to remember to understand to come out for London to the guilt and is staying or prevented from speaking up tree by the imposition of a completely arbitrary time limit. 22:08 [SPEAKER_03]: a time limit with crickets, and enables the user and allows the Catholic Church to system an institutional and average its responsibility to the vulnerable children placed in their care. 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I am blamed for not speaking at earlier, we're not doing what was possible for me to do. 22:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Once again, I'm told that it's my fault just as I was told when I was five years old. 22:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And when all those fails, the church reduces the pervasive, institutionalized, destruction of lives, discipline the cost of doing business. 22:41 [SPEAKER_03]: when it's the survivors costs. 22:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There is no statute of limitations on the consequences of sexual abuse. 22:49 [SPEAKER_03]: 65 years later, I'm still struggling with those consequences. 22:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It should be no statute of limitations on the responsibility of perpetrators and those who 22:59 [SPEAKER_03]: But I was a child that was taught to them in the Catholic Church, placed an indelible mark on your soul, indelible, no statute of limitations. 23:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, in my case, and Cal was others, the marks of membership in the Church are disrupted and tragic. 23:16 [SPEAKER_03]: But even more, unfortunately, they are indeed indelible. 23:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I asked to support fairness and justice for a five-year-old. 23:29 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Noi Davis. 23:31 [SPEAKER_07]: I am a lawyer and the Vice President of Perstar Institute at Child Advocacy Organization. 23:38 [SPEAKER_07]: I have previously testified for this body as an individual. 23:42 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm also a survivor of child sexual abuse. 23:45 [SPEAKER_07]: Today I have the privilege and the honor of giving voice to two anonymous survivors to give you their words. 23:53 [SPEAKER_07]: the first. 23:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I'd bring the Archdiocese of Maryland for stealing the first 20 years of my life. 23:59 [SPEAKER_07]: Maskled their priest, I encountered from the age of 12 to 11-17. 24:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Drogged at several sex traffic to police, he threatened to kill my parents, he had guns to my head. 24:09 [SPEAKER_07]: I told many sisters teachers counselor during my high school of years. 24:13 [SPEAKER_07]: I recorded and filed the charge and I knew. 24:16 [SPEAKER_07]: The police lost the record. 24:18 [SPEAKER_07]: How do you live in this country? 24:20 [SPEAKER_07]: They all knew 24:24 [SPEAKER_07]: People ask, why did you wait? 24:27 [SPEAKER_07]: I told many people for the years, and I had waited for my Congress to stand up for me. 24:34 [SPEAKER_07]: Please hold them accountable. 24:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Change a mirror, to stand up. 24:40 [SPEAKER_07]: Participate. 24:43 [SPEAKER_07]: The second circle. 24:45 [SPEAKER_07]: From age 6 to 9, I was sexually abused by my unannapolis nutrition. 24:50 [SPEAKER_07]: Whenever I saw him, even for an era, they always insisted on examining my genitalia this bare hand. 24:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I told my next pediatrician what happened, but he never reported it to police. 25:02 [SPEAKER_07]: Instead, he referred me to a therapist, who also never reported it. 25:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Last year, I reported both pediatricians to police. 25:10 [SPEAKER_07]: As far as I can tell, nothing has come of their investigation. 25:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I've learned recently other patients in medical professionals complained about these doctors during their career, but both continued practicing for 15-20 years at the die-lastsauce. 25:23 [SPEAKER_07]: I live with PTSD, depression, and anxiety. 25:25 [SPEAKER_07]: I've attempted suicide three times, and spent at least 60-thousand-5-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-thousand-th 25:37 [SPEAKER_07]: I urge lawmakers to pass HB-974 and those of us least able to protect ourselves. 25:46 [SPEAKER_07]: It is time to shift the burden away from victims in our future. 25:51 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 25:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Mr. 25:54 [SPEAKER_04]: Chair, Madam Vice Chair, and members of the Committee, thank you for allowing me to talk to my moral moral and alumni of the Peaceful and Apples Maryland. 26:02 [SPEAKER_04]: I'd like to speak for two friends from Keyu can't be here. 26:05 [SPEAKER_04]: One of them was gay and dating, the science teacher when we were kids. 26:09 [SPEAKER_04]: He killed himself seven years ago. 26:10 [SPEAKER_04]: The other was the first boy I really love, inspired me to believe in God. 26:16 [SPEAKER_04]: He began drinking heavily in high school and died and drunk by the accident at 17. 26:20 [SPEAKER_04]: We think the math he produced him. 26:23 [SPEAKER_04]: Ten years ago again, I began asking questions. 26:26 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was a kid, most adults at Keynu about the few. 26:29 [SPEAKER_04]: I've been piloting list of 14 adults involved in the school of whom I'm certain knew. 26:34 [SPEAKER_04]: Listing those current and former teacher, apartment heads, a deputy head of school, a current head of development, significant donor, missions officer, two board members of the president. 26:44 [SPEAKER_04]: One of whom was medical about. 26:46 [SPEAKER_04]: Sorry, three board members. 26:49 [SPEAKER_04]: So board them, his institutions have the wells and power that convince his people to be silent. 26:55 [SPEAKER_04]: Early 2018, I gave police a list of survivors, adults who probably knew an over 20 alleged users. 27:02 [SPEAKER_04]: Two years and the police haven't brought a single charge. 27:05 [SPEAKER_04]: Zilch. 27:06 [SPEAKER_04]: Meanwhile, a friend with recently saw an abusive routine girls hang out. 27:11 [SPEAKER_04]: Another lives near a school. 27:13 [SPEAKER_04]: A year ago, I saw one in West Street. 27:15 [SPEAKER_04]: One has worked the kids involved in their libraries. 27:18 [SPEAKER_04]: Many still teach. 27:22 [SPEAKER_04]: The civil justice system must have been under their name to never be public. 27:27 [SPEAKER_04]: We cannot reply on private. 27:28 [SPEAKER_04]: We have not rely on private institution. 27:30 [SPEAKER_04]: Like cold keys, investigators about poor predators from my childhood, their white water court only mentioned in tune. 27:36 [SPEAKER_04]: They got back strong. 27:38 [SPEAKER_04]: They outed me as a police informant if it had for risk to me and my family. 27:42 [SPEAKER_04]: I told key school, he didn't. 27:45 [SPEAKER_04]: When you need to give survivors a chance to tell their stories from them, we must follow staff implementation to create a look back window, otherwise children will remain at risk. 27:54 [SPEAKER_04]: I hope the truth will stop my friends from dying of substance abuse to a side because I'm sick of funerals. 28:00 [SPEAKER_04]: I urge the committee to support HNO974, please, just do it. 28:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Members of this committee, my name is Kathy Fihanyan, and I'm the public policy president. 28:14 [SPEAKER_07]: As Ias Maryland, as well as a member of the Maryland of this year. 28:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 28:24 [SPEAKER_07]: The diocese represents a marriage in this state of Maryland, and we have a thousandth marriage, and we support the B97 War. 28:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Howard, 78, 80 children are born in collect, five of them die as a dog. 28:49 [SPEAKER_07]: In the year 2003, million referrals made. 28:53 [SPEAKER_07]: The children have served eight in cease for outer, almost a third of the investigations result in a finding that childhood mispreetive were faced risk being missed. 29:07 [SPEAKER_07]: sadly child abuse of the reality and our worry, and must be acknowledged under stood in order for us to be an integral of that solving this. 29:18 [SPEAKER_07]: Someone that victimizes a child should not be able to hide the parking fine. 29:23 [SPEAKER_07]: HP 974s of the right thing, those individuals that are traumatized. 29:29 [SPEAKER_07]: for sexual abuse, Maryland. 29:31 [SPEAKER_07]: Her sim who is sexually assaulting its child, Rose and Dalton, and takes no longer report is her abuse. 29:39 [SPEAKER_07]: The abuser escapes, civil prosecuting the perpetrator is freed, stalking grooming and using children. 29:49 [SPEAKER_07]: HB-974 supports of them's access, porthouse, irrespective of when the threat that Brian was committed. 29:58 [SPEAKER_07]: Current laws written defense and protects it. 30:01 [SPEAKER_07]: By alishing the statute of limitation, text crimes, against children will not solve the problem, child abuse, overnight nircle. 30:10 [SPEAKER_07]: But it will arm our society to vehicle. 30:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Our children, the Episcopal Diasis, is serious about supporting each and every nine seven. 30:21 [SPEAKER_07]: And we wish. 30:27 [SPEAKER_07]: I invite him to send us a million and I'm the executive director for an organization called Don't We're Still In Child. 30:32 [SPEAKER_07]: I've spoken to many of you about this and other issues related to childhood show abuse. 30:37 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just just want to start by saying thank you. 30:39 [SPEAKER_07]: This is an incredibly difficult subject to talk about to listen to you and I really appreciate all of your willingness to be here, to stay in your seat, be it kind of your people tell their stories. 30:50 [SPEAKER_07]: That is unfortunately not something that they are 30:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I also want to thank you for passing this legislation last year. 30:57 [SPEAKER_07]: You had the institutional urge to move this up, video, or the house had the urge to wait. 31:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry, I'm sorry that they have to ask you to do that again, but we do. 31:08 [SPEAKER_07]: And so I hope that we can count on you to be strong for all of us in passing this bill forward. 31:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to take a minute and address something that has been flying around the room a little bit, and that's the money, because the money of the big 31:20 [SPEAKER_07]: spread. 31:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I want to start by the number of nine billion dollars. 31:25 [SPEAKER_07]: That's the estimated cost in the United States of Child's Social Business. 31:29 [SPEAKER_07]: That's not my number. 31:30 [SPEAKER_07]: That's the cost that goes beyond counseling and therapy session. 31:35 [SPEAKER_07]: It speaks to law's wages, it speaks to health issues, the long-term impact. 31:41 [SPEAKER_07]: and impacts the victim, their spouse, family, who workers, civility loss. 31:48 [SPEAKER_07]: This is not a one-person, one-and-done scenario. 31:52 [SPEAKER_07]: This is something that we all address when we all faint as we single. 31:57 [SPEAKER_07]: The second thing I want to talk about is options. 32:00 [SPEAKER_07]: They've heard a lot about bankruptcy today. 32:02 [SPEAKER_07]: A lot of pieces of, I want to clarify a little bit. 32:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Pennsylvania does not have a look. 32:09 [SPEAKER_07]: The Harrisburg Archdiocese chose Nancy, as an option, pre-emptive date. 32:16 [SPEAKER_07]: The Boy Scouts of America, chose fine. 32:20 [SPEAKER_07]: as an option for their organization. 32:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Institutions have choice then. 32:26 [SPEAKER_07]: They can choose bankruptcy protection, they can choose to trust, they can choose to offer counseling, they can choose address the issues in the court. 32:37 [SPEAKER_07]: Institutions have choice. 32:39 [SPEAKER_07]: What you're hearing today is survivors asking you for the same choice. 32:44 [SPEAKER_07]: It should be survivors choice, whether or not they want it to be the survivors choice while telling their family of them to be the survivors choice, whether they're brave enough basic criminal court to be the survivors choice, whether or not they're brave enough faces civil perceived. 33:01 [SPEAKER_07]: We're simply asking you to put the choice back in the hands of survivors for how they 33:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 33:11 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 33:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 33:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank 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last to tell the teacher, malt, breathe, and if there are businesses what I heard, and it was devastating. 33:59 [SPEAKER_07]: It is sick, it's not his fault, you'll feel better when you forgive him, just alone belongs to God, at least you are right. 34:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Is it any wonder that it takes decades for survivors to come for, by this? 34:16 [SPEAKER_07]: I tried several times to tell my parents, but became very overwhelmed and pan, because I wasn't sure what would happen next. 34:24 [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't know the words to describe what was happening. 34:28 [SPEAKER_07]: I was in fifth grade when I was in stroke, so on the lap of the abuser, in a dark and rhythm, in an empty house on school property. 34:37 [SPEAKER_07]: I thought he had a stick in his pocket, repeated and poking. 34:41 [SPEAKER_07]: He told me to wrap my arms around his neck tightly while he talked to me. 34:46 [SPEAKER_07]: When I was over I flew outside red phased and crying. 34:51 [SPEAKER_07]: And went to the school bathroom. 34:53 [SPEAKER_07]: My uniform was wet with an onion. 34:56 [SPEAKER_07]: undefined a bowl, unidentifiable white subs. 34:59 [SPEAKER_07]: I wiped it off, you turned last. 35:02 [SPEAKER_07]: This happens several times in the same house on school property and also in the boiler room, where I was placed across the depth of a trial-sized desk hidden in the... 35:14 [SPEAKER_07]: I told a teacher about the abuse but she never told my parents. 35:17 [SPEAKER_07]: My abuser was then moved to a different parish. 35:20 [SPEAKER_07]: Later in 1986, 35:26 [SPEAKER_07]: after being abused by the same priest. 35:29 [SPEAKER_07]: The priest nail lay a size to add this request was working as a C-rayo-based bulk of the same archdiocese. 35:36 [SPEAKER_07]: He later pleaded guilty to four counts of Sodomizing a minor, and admitted to sexually accusing six other boys, more than 50 times, in the previous six-year-art. 35:48 [SPEAKER_07]: A plea deal granted him immunity for prosecution, using other six-year-olds. 35:53 [SPEAKER_07]: He served knowing months, he is not on the Maryland's defenders. 35:59 [SPEAKER_07]: It's heartbreaking to me that a person can commit, repeat it, constant, and calculate what a failure in Maryland. 36:07 [SPEAKER_07]: They get away with it. 36:09 [SPEAKER_07]: It's a perfect example of how abusers will continue to abuse and kill theirs. 36:15 [SPEAKER_07]: This bill will help to expose abusers like them that protect children in the future. 36:19 [SPEAKER_07]: Today I'm here for them, as well as myself, with Victice come forward, perpetrators, 36:27 [SPEAKER_07]: and children are safer. 36:29 [SPEAKER_07]: Crediters depend on the statute of invitation to be able to continue to practice their compulsion. 36:36 [SPEAKER_07]: Institutions further protected users when they consistently demonstrate a lack of courage, protecting their institution, rather than its victims. 36:45 [SPEAKER_07]: There is hope for survivors, but without resources trauma, and seem insurmountable, thank you, please support House Bill Novel. 36:57 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Judy Lorenz, and I'm here and say of HB974. 37:00 [SPEAKER_07]: The most of there are two major heroes who is the last general in Penal 2. 37:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we'd been doing this. 37:09 [SPEAKER_07]: The video too many times testifying where this committee hardly have to think of the child's sex abuse. 37:14 [SPEAKER_07]: Too many times seeing girls stepped into drawers, not making it across the street, or passed by the house all the well-ewingly all they did in the same. 37:22 [SPEAKER_07]: as a way of legislation getting snakily transformed into a law regarding statutes who's rather than saying. 37:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Next to deliberation requests a last year, knowing the tie-breaking senator deployed to Afghanistan, and very next, and would be present crucial in them. 37:41 [SPEAKER_07]: There are concerns over institutions that have filed for bankruptcy, and the aftermath and so well, extensions. 37:47 [SPEAKER_07]: I was more alone to see an article on the Washington Post at his 37:51 [SPEAKER_07]: focusing on Cardinal McCarrot having paid a million dollars to an order of peace who sounded was an abuser. 37:58 [SPEAKER_07]: I know a bunch of survivors who would be far better than a fisheries. 38:02 [SPEAKER_07]: But these types of funds. 38:05 [SPEAKER_07]: I got an email last night as a family support person. 38:08 [SPEAKER_07]: This was from a survivor. 38:09 [SPEAKER_07]: She said, Judy and David, I'm sorry, but I just cannot do it. 38:13 [SPEAKER_07]: The last time I testified it really to the toll, and even worse, I haven't updated about what resulted. 38:19 [SPEAKER_07]: I had been in mediation with the archdiocese Baltimore, the counseling costs. 38:22 [SPEAKER_07]: You know, that unlimited, when they talk about, that's of course. 38:26 [SPEAKER_07]: When I met with them, it was right after my testimony last year, and they said, they were well aware of why I was. 38:32 [SPEAKER_07]: I recrisited to them my story as painful and embarrassing as it was, and gave them the receipts over $10,000 in calcium payments I had made in the 18 on supplier, a $200 an hour with a doctor specialist in adult survivor issues. 38:47 [SPEAKER_07]: And this does not include the tens of thousands, I read his books. 38:51 [SPEAKER_07]: The archdiocese offered me a... of which the attorney would... 38:56 [SPEAKER_07]: They'll hear through this a support, unless the course I wanted to go to a priest 39:03 [SPEAKER_07]: They said they're worried too many survivors will go, I could find any payment, then, except there's nothing. 39:10 [SPEAKER_07]: And continue counseling out of my own. 39:12 [SPEAKER_07]: If anyone is willing to repeat this on fine with it, I just did not do it myself, then that was from Gloria, Lorcan. 39:19 [SPEAKER_07]: As a family support person, I have heard the horrors of family members dealing with their loved ones' addictions to horses' men on illness, and today I need my God. 39:26 [SPEAKER_07]: But again, never tell them I come here, I'm more surprised than her. 39:30 [SPEAKER_07]: what is being said because these people are speaking the truth that's a rare same in our country today. 39:38 [SPEAKER_07]: What is it going to think to make Maryland substantial, you know, you're New Jersey, we're in other states. 39:45 [SPEAKER_07]: We have already passed this time from other station. 39:47 [SPEAKER_07]: This experience none of us wants to be here telling our stories over and over but we will until you have met us now. 39:57 [SPEAKER_07]: I appreciate the courage that this body demonstrated last year and passing the bill despite the intense of heartening and she will get our respect for us that you do the same and encourage your colleagues in the Senate to say thank you so much. 40:14 [SPEAKER_02]: to noon. 40:15 [SPEAKER_02]: My name is Susan Karen, and I reserved represent Maryland Catholics for action. 40:20 [SPEAKER_02]: We're a coalition of Catholics for lay people, priests, women's religious and even postulates to support victims' rights related to Turkey's sexual use scandal. 40:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Barley leadership has abandoned part-indred brothers and sisters. 40:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Our leaders have not provided the transparency and accountability necessary to ensure 40:41 [SPEAKER_02]: In my written testimony, I provide a references to two polls that were done in 2019 on U.S. cap. 40:49 [SPEAKER_02]: One was in the Economist and more was a Gallup. 40:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And they set the same thing, 30 to 35% of U.S. Catholic, personally questioning whether to remain Catholic because of the scandal and have unseverable views of our leadership. 41:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It's important to know that these polls may actually be under-estimating, Lady Concert. 41:09 [SPEAKER_02]: This is because most cats have no idea what our church institutions are doing behind the scenes in terms of spending money and lobbying resources, work bills, like the hidden letters that. 41:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Our leaders often share the legislative priorities on the pulpit, and bulletins in Flocknote. 41:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never heard anybody publicly challenge the HPA, though I've heard brighter. 41:33 [SPEAKER_02]: As an ally group, we have heard Vickum share with us the stigmatizing response. 41:37 [SPEAKER_02]: They have received that being believed, judged, or dismissed, or hearing magnificent statements from the church hierarchy, which never reached materializing to substance abuse. 41:48 [SPEAKER_02]: The cause burden of the crime lies herdomally under the, and if it doesn't pass this year, they will continue to pay. 41:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone who is Catholic should regard the scandal as an existential issue, we are facing moral 42:02 [SPEAKER_02]: The layity are the treasures of this church. 42:04 [SPEAKER_02]: We provide the financial office for us and the hundreds of thousands of hours in charitable work. 42:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Our voices should be purchased as much as the bread of visions. 42:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope that you will support H.P. 42:17 [SPEAKER_02]: 9.7. 42:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. 42:23 [SPEAKER_07]: Madam Vice, Chair and Lisa C. during with the Maryland Coalition and Secule Assault. 42:27 [SPEAKER_07]: Then, testifying and favor of bills like this for a decade. 42:31 [SPEAKER_07]: We are here this year in favor of House Bill 974. 42:36 [SPEAKER_07]: There's really nothing I can say that's going to be more compelling to the voices that you've already. 42:42 [SPEAKER_07]: I do want to say that delegate Wilson has to remove the ball forward. 42:47 [SPEAKER_07]: It also like to point to delegate menace. 42:49 [SPEAKER_07]: Sure is on your ball. 42:52 [SPEAKER_07]: and saying delicate soul and send her Kelly and send her young, and then belly at the Anthony Brown, and every single one of you for about a last year in favor of this bill, this is something that would eliminate the stat. 43:08 [SPEAKER_07]: So these people don't have to, continually come back and have the thing telling you their story over again, only to have the state of Maryland's then please fail to do very much. 43:21 [SPEAKER_07]: Certainly, you've passed bills in the past that have evolved forward, but this is a significant court system. 43:31 [SPEAKER_07]: It is fundamental fear with these here at legislative. 43:35 [SPEAKER_07]: So, for those reasons and mainly for their reason, the survivors and their voices that you've just heard, the Maryland Coalition Against Sexual Assault are just a favorable report on House Bill Night. 43:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Mr. 43:47 [SPEAKER_06]: Chair, members of the Mid-Ageoyce Bombard in the Bolton, more child recent, but only a raise one point that has been raised by everyone else that you have heard today. 43:57 [SPEAKER_06]: and that is that in the 16 states that have looked back window, we hear this during some of your colleagues, might be talking about the bankrupts, like for that in the years information from child abuse, Asia, as in Georgia, there were, there were times sorry, there were four things. 44:18 [SPEAKER_06]: After there looked back window and dollarware, there were 1,175, 1,000 of which were again, 44:27 [SPEAKER_06]: And so we know that various use survivors actually want to access the criminal or the civil justice system. 44:38 [SPEAKER_06]: Feeling takes me once a, all this bill is asking you to do is provide us to accept and then once you're in the courts, then memories, then they have to deal with the evidence 44:57 [SPEAKER_07]: floor, all you're doing is allowing them to control the virtue of the state. 45:25 [SPEAKER_07]: would be sovereign, way, way, way. 45:33 [SPEAKER_07]: I understand that there are additional amendments regarding math, and I've not seen those, pardon me. 45:38 [SPEAKER_06]: Now, I haven't seen the amendments, but my understanding is that the bill before you did not sovereign in, and so the bill before you, the amendments did. 45:47 [SPEAKER_07]: And do you understand the behavior behind the amendments, 45:59 [SPEAKER_07]: We're looking forward to reviewing it. 46:01 [SPEAKER_07]: Sure, be sure you're interested in support. 46:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Are there further questions? 46:12 [SPEAKER_07]: Some testimony. 46:14 [SPEAKER_07]: They wrote the list. 46:16 [SPEAKER_07]: Where the people signed up to testify, post. 46:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I will say that here we hear their testimony. 46:24 [SPEAKER_07]: And he's five people. 46:28 [SPEAKER_07]: here with us today, I was six bills, but I just want that out there. 46:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Many officers, they're a silverman, either part of it. 46:46 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Myder Carter, I was at the American property. 46:56 [SPEAKER_03]: as people have talked about monetary rewards, y'all know in many cases that incident ever had, except war that is expanded because of presence in charge money. 47:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And we'd like to work with many to resolve. 47:13 [SPEAKER_07]: It would be very frustrating as favorable with veterans now. 47:16 [SPEAKER_07]: I should have said that with them for this way. 47:19 [SPEAKER_07]: Be action. 47:20 [SPEAKER_07]: What? 47:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I was told to come to do it once. 47:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But time I stopped. 47:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I realized, and my testimony, we're not against the input, though, we're against the, ensure. 47:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's, the time I thought about what I was going to do was, felt the first time I got it. 47:41 [SPEAKER_07]: Sir, got it. 47:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. 47:44 [SPEAKER_07]: Vice Chairman, 47:46 [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Carrie Solderman. 47:48 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm here today on behalf of the import reform association. 47:53 [SPEAKER_07]: National organization that represents businesses, associations, and its values here in Lombia, on America, Berlin, resident, bar. 48:02 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm here today to express our concern. 48:06 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's see. 48:07 [SPEAKER_07]: Don't worry. 48:08 [SPEAKER_07]: I get into it. 48:09 [SPEAKER_07]: I do want to express appreciation. 48:14 [SPEAKER_07]: You're 48:17 [SPEAKER_07]: But testified on this top card, let's see here. 48:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Our issue is really with precedent of this sentence. 48:28 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't approach it, say, you, it's not, but extending the statute of limitations to whatever a reasonable level. 48:35 [SPEAKER_07]: with the approach at state in that. 48:39 [SPEAKER_07]: Is there a approach that we haven't seen ever before in Maryland? 48:42 [SPEAKER_07]: That's an approach that eliminates a statute of limitations entirely, completely, for a type of civil claim. 48:49 [SPEAKER_07]: You have not seen that. 48:51 [SPEAKER_07]: Is there a approach that revives time-barred claims? 48:54 [SPEAKER_07]: That's an approach we're seeing here. 48:57 [SPEAKER_07]: Work and it's concerning to us, because it sets a precedent for other types of civil actions. 49:03 [SPEAKER_07]: Statutes of limitations may be viewed as arbitrary, they may be viewed as unfair to individuals on, in fact, the arm is a takeaway, a viable plea, but it's very, it serves a very important purpose. 49:15 [SPEAKER_03]: That purpose is making sure that judges and jurists can decide cases about liability on the best evidence about. 49:23 [SPEAKER_03]: They can decide cases involving millions of dollars and damages when they're witnesses there. 49:28 [SPEAKER_03]: still around when there are documents that have been discarded and to make those types of decisions of the wording of, I've monitored this issue and tested by many other states. 49:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be happy to answer your questions on whether other states have done on this issue. 49:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But the sum up of it is, most states have not taken so that many times and most states have, like Maryland has, 49:59 [SPEAKER_07]: Bellagated Fisher, for your question. 50:02 [SPEAKER_07]: To the gentleman who has spoken the word bar in Tordiform. 50:08 [SPEAKER_07]: Thanks for your attention. 50:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you. 50:11 [SPEAKER_07]: I think I'll just say though that even though this would be the unique precedent in Maryland, the type of victim in this game is one of the most, as it's a very per-use, chill versus any other kind of civil claim that looking at Maryland wouldn't be on such a 50:36 [SPEAKER_07]: It is a special, but I know in my practice, and I don't represent anyone in this situation, but in my practice, we deal with liability actions. 50:49 [SPEAKER_07]: of cancer, as a result, exposure to a harm. 50:53 [SPEAKER_07]: Substance many years later, we deal with people who may hear me, who are assaulted in it. 51:00 [SPEAKER_07]: Now, if that goes or also kind of work claims, people mean in a workplace bite effect. 51:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Right. 51:05 [SPEAKER_07]: There's all the tort law deals with people don't sue for little things, they sue for terrible injuries. 51:11 [SPEAKER_07]: So, 51:12 [SPEAKER_07]: There will be cases where already seeing in other states expansions of these types of laws, the unchild sexual abuse, the other types. 51:21 [SPEAKER_07]: I guess I would say even the example that you've been here. 51:25 [SPEAKER_07]: This body and yep. 51:27 [SPEAKER_07]: not knowing that the body of the cross, probably could cross the street, but I would say that, even in that, very tip, about its liability issues, I think they didn't know that it was going to harm someone. 51:39 [SPEAKER_07]: It's not dealing with not only miners, which is such a steep, inter-tuportet, and they are dealing with some kind of sexual abuse and orate, which is something that you knowingly, 51:53 [SPEAKER_07]: know that we need to enter a hog farm to be determined, and when I still believe that you can very much just think this bill worth the claim of saying that for civil teams in the future going to be appointed up an example that we're going to let us all the statute in the case of brother stuff. 52:10 [SPEAKER_07]: I do think that bearing margin and all the lawyers on the 52:23 [SPEAKER_07]: The first thing, what is the problem, the shwans? 52:29 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the concept problem when you go to some of the functions and we already have a problem. 52:36 [SPEAKER_07]: There's a concept problem of false claims because of the insurance because you see the insurance problem, you hope they're going to settle to get plain. 52:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's a problem problem in insurance. 52:53 [SPEAKER_07]: to the second down on your spoke. 52:55 [SPEAKER_07]: I think in my mind, excuse me, there's no other presence on some statue of limitation, both in Maryland. 53:07 [SPEAKER_07]: But when I heard in a testimony, he talked about, say this, the murder of a child, soul, first person 53:23 [SPEAKER_07]: So we've got a lot of steps to eliminate this proof. 53:28 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think you've any lip. 53:32 [SPEAKER_07]: I understand that I have a lot of sympathy with this, which I think in some of the other types of cases and talk about, there are people with long injuries and they could also say, 53:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll get what Colis. 53:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, Mr. 53:57 [SPEAKER_05]: Chair. 53:58 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm looking at this a little differently because basically the individual doesn't able to put the picture together to realize that they've really been abused until we're saying 52. 54:11 [SPEAKER_05]: And so there are different mechanisms within the law where the statute of limitations is whole or suspended until the person discovers that they've been abused, worked 54:21 [SPEAKER_05]: not abuse but have been injured. 54:23 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, or the person, let's say they get hit on the head and they've been on clonchester for X years and all of a sudden they wake up and they really put it all together and then they would be allowed to sue because they were disabled before. 54:36 [SPEAKER_05]: So this isn't that you be in that sense because of that and then you couple of finishes and I wish you to comment. 54:45 [SPEAKER_05]: Then you have the situation where you're dealing with a vulnerable class children and they might be threatened with a gun or they say we're going to we're going to kill your pet Okay, brothers and sisters and your parents if you say anything so there's this address and so they don't have finally when they Fifty two and they okay the person's not around anymore or they realize that they can't kill their parents or things like that 55:09 [SPEAKER_05]: it the light bulb goes on so in a sense it's not necessarily really upending the tort system it's just modifying it for a rather unique situation so would you comment 55:24 [SPEAKER_07]: Sure, the tort system does have some mechanisms already placed tried by your time for people. 55:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And so, obviously, what injury is to a child, the statute of education isn't running until the feast. 55:40 [SPEAKER_03]: There's also some cases of time and law discovery rule up, recognized by the court, give additional time to a person who didn't know they were in something or a harm by a criminal practice or whatever. 55:53 [SPEAKER_03]: And they don't realize until a year's later, they're over there. 55:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Then the statute of temptations will not start to run until they discover it. 56:01 [SPEAKER_03]: There's also an earlier law on this, but there's usually totally reproachingly concealment in a case where a defendant makes it so that 56:12 [SPEAKER_07]: or whoever was injured or not, no being, and it'd be intentionally due, that would also tell us that. 56:18 [SPEAKER_07]: So there are those types of mechanisms that are already in place here in a states that are available, they're narrow and. 56:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 56:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to call an appointment. 56:29 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call an appointment. 56:54 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to call an appointment. 56:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to 56:55 [SPEAKER_03]: needed to build the courage up, finally realized what happened to them, like so and so forth, to get them the justice and merit. 57:04 [SPEAKER_07]: Attour's position on this is just that any statute actions on Bognite, non-unlimited, to spill, as so. 57:12 [SPEAKER_07]: There was a number, it was hired, and I don't think that. 57:18 [SPEAKER_07]: And the second is that changes in stack, what I shouldn't buy. 57:24 [SPEAKER_07]: When that happens, organizations are judged in Haiti, based on standards of what we now expect. 57:30 [SPEAKER_07]: Bradden was known at the time. 57:34 [SPEAKER_07]: They may not have purchased insurance at that time to cover claims that they're now these, they may not have seen for records, help them. 57:42 [SPEAKER_07]: Long ago, because they didn't realize they could possibly be subject to suit years later. 57:49 [SPEAKER_07]: And they may not even know if they had them. 57:54 [SPEAKER_07]: So that's concerned with the retro activity. 57:56 [SPEAKER_07]: In terms of having more time, I don't think actually would have any issue with having a longer period time, discovery, how to buy, doing it, just buying it. 58:09 [SPEAKER_07]: Questions, wait a minute. 58:10 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you're going to hear what it's, but you missed it. 58:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted a few members of this community who was happy to share all the words. 58:20 [SPEAKER_03]: But my question is, why don't you tell them what you talk about in your trauma issue? 58:28 [SPEAKER_07]: But would really struck me, is that one of the ladies who tested the fight, say a day try, this suicide. 58:34 [SPEAKER_03]: So my question, if she would have been successful, making suicide, would her family been being sued or the murder, since that's not a statute on the patient. 58:48 [SPEAKER_07]: Family wouldn't be a problem for us. 58:52 [SPEAKER_07]: Cross, they would be able to, in my view, able to, we are wrong. 59:02 [SPEAKER_07]: The, I believe the statute of limitations is Maryland on a rump on that is by three or years. 59:10 [SPEAKER_03]: First, we would think that he really skilled attorney to be able to link that suicide directly to the trauma and flicked it on that person past 30 years early. 59:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 59:31 [SPEAKER_03]: It looks real quickly. 59:32 [SPEAKER_03]: I think what I'd be mentioned, the best evidence for all, and that would be one of your concerns. 59:37 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think? 59:38 [SPEAKER_07]: Would you be a support of a limitation, not a statute of prose, but limitation, that would suggest the light been being of a betrayer, plus a sentimental time app, so like one year. 59:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Then a reasonable amount of time, be a well-paying evidence that may be readily available. 60:00 [SPEAKER_07]: You said that the lifetime of the perpetrator is a statute of limitations, that's an interesting approach is not one that is seen for considered. 60:10 [SPEAKER_07]: That is considered. 60:11 [SPEAKER_07]: It does establish a time for even it does at least. 60:15 [SPEAKER_07]: You have a witness there perpetrator called and trial. 60:20 [SPEAKER_07]: So it would be something we have to consider.
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