0:08 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for watching. 0:30 [SPEAKER_02]: fain and iron so excited about our guests tonight. 0:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I know I say that a lot, but if you're don't already have like your choice of drink or water sitting down, you might want to do that, because this one's going to be very different than what you've heard before, and very engaging, and very embarrassing. 0:52 [SPEAKER_02]: about a year ago, our guest, her name is Lynn Sharmer, reached out to me, and also to a few of the people that I know through the keepers. 1:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, I was told her last thing was Smith, and it's not, it's Sharmer. 1:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So I never got her message. 1:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You all heard the episodes that we did with Ellen Lachter and Gene Wainer. 1:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And Lynn is friends with Ellen. 1:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Lynn and I finally connected after Ellen facilitated. 1:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And as you remember, Ellen is the therapist that we were able to interview about ritualistic 1:40 [SPEAKER_02]: that I invited Lynn to be our guest tonight. 1:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to introduce Lynn and I want you all to welcome her to the program. 1:50 [SPEAKER_02]: This is Lynn Sharmer. 1:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, Lynn. 1:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Hi, and Lynn, where are you? 1:55 [SPEAKER_02]: You're located on the West Coast, correct? 1:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 1:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I live in Seattle. 1:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 2:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I really want you to do the talking. 2:02 [SPEAKER_02]: People are tired of listening to me. 2:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Could you actually explain how you and I finally did 2:08 [SPEAKER_02]: get to be able to talk to each other. 2:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, if you want me to start at the beginning. 2:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So what happened was in May of 2017, I was watching Netflix and I was watching the keepers. 2:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And I thought it was amazing. 2:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And it got to the episode with Dr. Richter. 2:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And they showed us face. 2:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was just sitting there, mining my business, watching the documentary, and they showed us face, and his name, and I started screaming. 2:44 [SPEAKER_03]: It was in involuntary screen that just came out of me. 2:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I was shocked that I was suddenly screaming. 2:50 [SPEAKER_03]: I got up and walked around. 2:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I was shaking. 2:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I kept screaming. 2:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure that I scared my poor neighbors. 2:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I settled down and of course I called with my therapist. 3:04 [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I recognized him and I was totally stunned and traumatized and a little bit of 3:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, of course, I went and worked on the memory in therapy, and then I knew where I knew him from. 3:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And so after I think I took a couple of weeks to settle down and keep working on my emotional state. 3:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I wrote a letter. 3:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And I sent it to the Gmail address for the keepers, I think. 3:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got a response. 3:37 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I didn't hear anything for a long time. 3:40 [SPEAKER_03]: A number of months later, I published an article about the keepers on one of my websites, warnpressed.com because the keepers did such an amazing job at dealing with the myth of false memory and it is myth. 3:52 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a PR campaign. 3:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So I wrote an article about it that and I posted it in the keepers group on Facebook and 4:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's when we first got in touch, but then we got in touch again through Ellen point of these after that. 4:07 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that's how we got in touch. 4:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I recognized a purpose on the keepers. 4:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to remind everybody that's listening that Christian Richter, I hate to even use the word doctor, but Christian Richter now deceased, fortunately, was the gynecologist. 4:25 [SPEAKER_02]: that was friends with Joseph Mascol and he is the guy that Mascol took young girls to for gynecological examinations and also for surgical procedures. 4:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Now we know that there's one report that several keyo girls were admitted at one time into the ER into outpatient at night and that their church all said that we're having a DNC 4:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were actually having illegal abortions in a Catholic hospital, St. Joseph's Hospital in Towson. 5:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So this is the person that Lynn is referring to. 5:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And the interesting thing is that Lynn has never been to Maryland. 5:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So Lynn, I'm going to ask you to explain your connection to Dr. Richter and just take your time. 5:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 5:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is another one of those where do I start kind of things to give it context I'd probably have to start at the beginning of how I was trafficked as a child I was born into a family it was an abusive family and it was intergenerational abuse so both my paternal and maternal grandparents abuse my parents and 5:49 [SPEAKER_03]: As far as I can tell, going back for generations, sometimes the abuse would be done as a group. 5:55 [SPEAKER_03]: So it wasn't just one had a file in the family, but it was like group activity where kids were molested. 6:03 [SPEAKER_03]: So my parents were already troubled and they were young when they had me and my brother. 6:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I had an older brother, four years older than me. 6:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I was born in 1963, by the way, in Detroit. 6:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I was about three and a half, four years old, my mother started taking me to special doctors appointments. 6:23 [SPEAKER_03]: My mother also trafficked me. 6:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Like she would take me to a bar and she would sell me. 6:31 [SPEAKER_03]: to people in the back of the bar. 6:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And she would take me to house as men's houses where there were parties. 6:39 [SPEAKER_03]: That sort of thing. 6:40 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm between three and a half and four and she's, and there's a reason why I know I was that age. 6:47 [SPEAKER_03]: She started taking me to a special doctor's appointment. 6:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Really frequently, it seemed every couple of weeks or maybe it was once and a month, of course I'm a teen tiny child and I can not remember in time. 6:59 [SPEAKER_03]: that well back then. 7:01 [SPEAKER_03]: But that some of the same men would be at the doctor's office and it was this it was my pediatricians office at first and he had a special one of his exam rooms was off in it in the sort of the opposite side of his other exam rooms and it had a special set up in it and they were running behavioral experiments. 7:28 [SPEAKER_03]: There's really not a good set of terms for what they were doing, but basically it was various forms of torture. 7:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I would be strapped down on a gurney or strapped in a 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This continued periodically going to the doctor's office and then sometimes it was a hospital and unused old laundry in the basement of a hospital. 10:54 [SPEAKER_03]: different people and they would torture me to get the behavior that they wanted and they wanted all kinds of different behaviors not just dissociating in certain ways but being able to respond the right way to when I was being molested because certain perpetrators, sexual perpetrators had a files like their victims to show certain responses when they're doing 11:23 [SPEAKER_03]: And this went on and I was given tests, a lot of tests, behavioral tests, as I got older, intelligence tests. 11:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And something happened where I was accepted into another connected program, but carrying out the same kind of experimentation. 11:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And when I was six, we moved to Birmingham, Alabama. 11:48 [SPEAKER_03]: My family had never had any connection there. 11:53 [SPEAKER_03]: that my father's salary tripled, the size of our house tripled. 11:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So that leaves me to believe that my parents were compensated for all of this. 12:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit to the Richter part. 12:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 12:08 [SPEAKER_03]: So after we moved to Birmingham four or five times a year, I was still being taken to facilities, obviously different facilities. 12:17 [SPEAKER_03]: I can see the interior of these facilities very clearly. 12:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I know some of them were connected with NASA because of what I saw, you know, what I can see inside the buildings, but I don't remember the exteriors. 12:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I a lot of times I was in an enclosed space when I was transported, so I couldn't see where I was going. 12:38 [SPEAKER_03]: The place where I saw Richter was like an annex. 12:50 [SPEAKER_03]: At NASA, it was in the shape of a barn. 12:54 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a big metal barn with a concrete floor. 12:58 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a newer structure. 13:00 [SPEAKER_03]: It had, it wasn't like the some old raggedy broken down barn. 13:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like new for the 60s Japanese. 13:07 [SPEAKER_03]: It was silver, corrugated metal, and it had a, 13:11 [SPEAKER_03]: orange items with a peak in the middle and it had two big doors and there was actually still farm equipment and at some times, but like new farm equipment, they set up a couple of days with chairs and the other equipment they used. 13:28 [SPEAKER_03]: When I saw Richter, I was with one doctor, my main 13:38 [SPEAKER_03]: but he was working on me and I was strapped in a chair and I was naked and strapped in a chair and all wired up for electric shock around my torso. 13:50 [SPEAKER_03]: They used to do electric shock all over different parts of the body. 13:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I was around my torso. 13:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And Richter came in and was covering behind my the main perpetrator and he had with him a black box and he gave the box 14:07 [SPEAKER_03]: to the main guy, and they hooked me up. 14:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think what the box was a portable brainwave monitoring that someone had developed, it was much more precise than what the teams had been using before. 14:24 [SPEAKER_03]: They were going to test it out. 14:25 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was also drugged, so I was really loopy. 14:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was having a hard time concentrating on their instructions. 14:38 [SPEAKER_03]: not being able to follow instructions. 14:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you can't follow instructions, you get tortured. 14:43 [SPEAKER_03]: So even though I'm terrified and complete mess, you still have to follow those instructions. 14:49 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to follow them. 14:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I did the best I could. 14:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Ritter again, he paced around behind the main guy did all the work. 14:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And when it was over, Ritter was really pleased. 15:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, and then he raped. 15:04 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's my major memory of Richter. 15:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw him another time, not going to go into that. 15:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember, as far as I know, only the two times. 15:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And my impression of Richter was that he was, he would just come through and do deliveries. 15:21 [SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, Ancelary, I guess, you would say. 15:24 [SPEAKER_03]: He was not one of the main people. 15:26 [SPEAKER_03]: But the point in all of that is that from what I know, 15:32 [SPEAKER_03]: What mascot was doing may be very well and connected something much bigger and classify but that most people still know nothing about this experimentation on children's experimentation and torture. 15:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Lynn could I ask you a couple questions just for clarification. 15:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, please. 15:53 [SPEAKER_02]: You said that you were born in did you say Detroit. 15:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you were from. 15:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 16:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you have brothers and sisters. 16:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I had a brother four years older. 16:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Then I, he passed away in 2015. 16:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have any memories of him being involved in any of this? 16:15 [SPEAKER_03]: He was involved. 16:16 [SPEAKER_03]: He was assaulted by other family members and other... 16:20 [SPEAKER_03]: perpetrators, privately in the network. 16:23 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't, he wasn't traffic to like I was that I know of, like he wasn't called or given to parties, assaulted parties. 16:31 [SPEAKER_03]: But he was definitely molested as part of the family. 16:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe he was tested for these programs and he didn't qualify. 16:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I now can't say that for sure. 16:43 [SPEAKER_03]: The reason why I think that is, I never saw him in the labs ever. 16:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And my father was disappointed with him and his whole life. 16:54 [SPEAKER_03]: My father was a sociopath. 16:55 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be really charming. 16:57 [SPEAKER_03]: He could even be gentle sometimes and if you're caring. 17:01 [SPEAKER_03]: But my father was involved in all this. 17:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It's my belief that my father worked for the CIA. 17:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I did see my father in the labs later when I was a teenager. 17:11 [SPEAKER_03]: My father would take me on operations. 17:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So I never saw my brother in those contacts. 17:19 [SPEAKER_03]: And my brother and my father never went off on a trip together long. 17:23 [SPEAKER_03]: So, and I remember. 17:24 [SPEAKER_02]: You said that your mom took you to your pediatrician. 17:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to clarify, it sounded like what you were saying was that you were being evaluated to see if you would be a good candidate for this experimentation. 17:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 17:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that pediatrician then was he aware of what was happening in his own office? 17:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 17:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, and what happened to him? 17:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know, he's long deceased. 17:56 [SPEAKER_03]: He was in his 40s or 50s when I was in the middle of 60s. 18:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, did all of this happen in the Detroit area? 18:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, before the age of six, yeah. 18:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And so was there ever any talk? 18:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you go to regular public school? 18:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Did anybody ever talk about what was happening there? 18:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I, the rule was, not only with the family abuse, but especially with the doctor's appointments and things. 18:23 [SPEAKER_03]: is you don't tell, and if it's like organized crime. 18:26 [SPEAKER_03]: So how do you keep the code of silence in an organized crime family? 18:31 [SPEAKER_03]: You scare the hell out of people, and you show them what happens when you spill the beans. 18:36 [SPEAKER_03]: They used pets in their threats constantly, but with me they used a pet, I had a dog when I was really young, a vet-linked in terror. 18:47 [SPEAKER_03]: My therapist laughs over this, but her name was civil. 18:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And my mother knew a breeder of vetland interiors. 18:53 [SPEAKER_03]: And so they would get dogs. 18:56 [SPEAKER_03]: They would get dogs that look like my dog. 18:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I was in that hospital basement with one of my, one of the lab, herps, one of the doctor perpetrators. 19:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And they brought in a vetland interer. 19:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was already being tortured. 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: I was half out of it. 19:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And he told me this is your dog. 19:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to show you what happens if you talk, if you say too much, if you don't be able or something, he's sorry, I'm sorry, it's okay. 19:28 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you participate, right? 19:31 [SPEAKER_03]: We can't afford it. 19:33 [SPEAKER_03]: He killed the dog, but he made me hold the knife to kill the dog. 19:38 [SPEAKER_03]: It's organized, it's just really horrific, organized crime, but it's all the same stuff. 19:44 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't tell the secret, you don't act weird outside of the house. 19:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Because of how upsetting this conversation was, we decided to take a short break. 19:54 [SPEAKER_03]: In my case, with my family, there was also dissociation. 19:59 [SPEAKER_03]: When we would have these family kind of orgy things, we'd often have them in the basement and as I was walking down the stairs to go to these things in the basement my mother would call me by a different and that was from person memory so they reinforced that. 20:16 [SPEAKER_03]: They scare the hell out of you so you dissociate. 20:19 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they call you a different name. 20:22 [SPEAKER_03]: When you walk back up the stairs, you're not going to remember anything. 20:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Lynn, you mentioned that when you were, I think you said six, your family moved to Alabama. 20:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And Birmingham is very close to where a NASA facility is N-A-S-A, correct? 20:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so what was happening to you and you mentioned that your dad worked for the CIA, what was happening to you was actually being authorized by the National Air and Space Administration. 20:54 [SPEAKER_03]: My perpetrators were certainly using their facilities. 20:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's not easy. 21:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 21:01 [SPEAKER_02]: You told me about being one display for experimentation and you mentioned to me when we talked before that you thought there were medical and military personnel and political personnel as observers. 21:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that accurate? 21:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's right. 21:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Was it what we would know as a medical theater where doctors who were interns 21:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, except yeah, I was raised a little bit. 21:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're not talking about just like a bunch of thugs and a dirty bar and we're talking about an organized program supposedly people are learning from yes that's right this happened and I believe I was nine 72 and I don't remember. 21:51 [SPEAKER_03]: going there, coming back, I have parts inside you called the venue Boston General, and it was like a half circle theater, but it was really clean. 22:02 [SPEAKER_03]: And my main perpetrator at NASA from Huntsville had me up on the stage and was demonstrating how well conditioned I was. 22:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and there were the audience, I would guess 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I noticed people from the television and a lot of doctors and military people. 22:27 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean by people from television? 22:29 [SPEAKER_03]: The household name. 22:30 [SPEAKER_02]: People high up in the government. 22:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's move into why you and we think this was happening because we are also 22:39 [SPEAKER_02]: having two episodes, which our listeners will have heard by the time you hear yours from Dr. Collin Ross, who is an expert in MK all-truck. 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm really curious about how you think what happened to you fit into a government program and why you were being used this way. 23:10 [SPEAKER_03]: experimenting with dissociation and could they create a soldier who would have amnesia and for like a spy mission, could a soldier deliver a secret message across to some maybe across lines or something and then if he gets captured he doesn't know so he can't tell so he can't spill the beans and they were working on that before World War II and then after World 23:38 [SPEAKER_03]: full of these experimentation programs. 23:40 [SPEAKER_03]: The ones that we know about, like MKL, true of that, part of it was exposed in the late 1970s. 23:46 [SPEAKER_03]: But there were more these experiments involving children taking children very young and training them to predictably dissociate and have amnesia, predictably have amnesia. 23:58 [SPEAKER_03]: That started in the 50s. 23:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And we know that from survivor testimony. 24:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Carol Rutz and my friend Janet Thomas who wrote a book about it. 24:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah by the time I came along in 1963 it was their procedures they weren't experimenting with some procedures as much but it was very these are scientists and doctors working for the military so everything was regimented and they were replicating work that was successful but then still experimenting with other 24:32 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the stuff that was done on me when I was really young, they had already pretty much found success with those, a lot of those methods. 24:42 [SPEAKER_03]: But they use this for a dual purpose. 24:45 [SPEAKER_03]: The reason why I was at, they ran some of this out in NASA as they did a lot of medical experimentation. 24:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So 24:51 [SPEAKER_03]: having to with space play. 24:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So that should be big news for your audience. 24:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so much of this is not science fiction. 25:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not, but it's so hard to know that MK Ultra, they stopped it or supposedly stopped it and now they didn't. 25:08 [SPEAKER_02]: They're right. 25:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Cleaned, cleaned everything up. 25:11 [SPEAKER_02]: But are we okay? 25:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So are we separating the, I hate to say the word legitimate, but the doctors 25:20 [SPEAKER_02]: that we're working for NASA from pedophiles or are these the same people. 25:28 [SPEAKER_02]: You're being experimented one, or you're used as a demonstration to show how dissociation can work and amnesia, forced amnesia. 25:40 [SPEAKER_02]: by scientists who are working for our government, correct? 25:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 25:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, now you also talked about people like Christian Richter and others who 25:54 [SPEAKER_02]: For example, your pediatricians' office where it wasn't quite legitimate and that perhaps this was also a group of pedophiles who were abusing these children. 26:07 [SPEAKER_03]: When they run these experiments, they contract out. 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: They have independent contractors. 26:12 [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of these people, I'm sure my pediatrician, 26:16 [SPEAKER_03]: was given some sort of contract for the use of it's offices, and the same with a lot of the major perpetrators, but the vast majority of them, when you're torturing someone, sexual tortures, part of the deal, all the perpetrators that were higher up, like the guy at NASA, and were all petabiles. 26:35 [SPEAKER_03]: They, it was just part, even if you didn't, you wouldn't be torturing a child, if you wouldn't be in that job. 26:40 [SPEAKER_03]: How many people could say, like, this is for, we're in competition with the Russians. 26:45 [SPEAKER_03]: We want to see if we can be successful at controlling someone's behavior and creating a lifelong and amnestic slave, but I don't want to torture anybody. 26:54 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just not going to, you're not going to find 26:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Dr. Lachter said shared with us that some of these children were actually used as the messengers. 27:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And like a child could be used to carry information to another country. 27:11 [SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, would be using a different name and not remember that that even went there and came back. 27:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. 27:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 27:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 27:20 [SPEAKER_02]: So she said they were almost like sex. 27:22 [SPEAKER_02]: kittens so that they part of that was they were trained to be that way. 27:27 [SPEAKER_02]: They would be able to deliver this information high level information to foreign countries that do whatever it was they were trained to do and then they would come back and not even know they had made the trip. 27:42 [SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly right and then you think you've been told that you were at summer camp for a week. 27:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, that's exactly right. 27:48 [SPEAKER_03]: So there are a number of jobs that they train us for. 27:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And when we're being brought up, going to the labs, they test you to see what kind of job you're going to be better for. 27:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So they work on being a career being able to see if you can develop a photographic memory so you can store documents in your memory and then reap them out when you're given the cue. 28:09 [SPEAKER_03]: You're given the trigger. 28:11 [SPEAKER_03]: They definitely train me. 28:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I have an entire team of altars that perform sexually depending upon what the perpetrator wants. 28:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Lin's use of the word alters is referring to alternate personalities that she believes were created during her programming and abuse under MK Ultra. 28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Next week's part two of our conversation, you will learn more about how this program is utilized to program individuals like Lin. 28:49 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you very much for watching this video, thank you very much for watching this video, thank you very much for 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