
America's Conservation Presidents: Roosevelt to Carter and the National Park Legacy
Show Notes
When most people think of America's national parks, they imagine breathtaking landscapes—the towering cliffs of Yosemite, the geysers of Yellowstone, the misty valleys of the Great Smoky Mountains. But behind every protected vista lies a political battle, and in this special episode, Shane sits down with Will and Jim Patis, founders of More Than Just Parks, to explore the untold story of the presidents who fought to preserve these landscapes for future generations—and the personal experiences that shaped their conservation legacies.
The conversation spans more than a century of environmental history, from Theodore Roosevelt's transformative years as a Dakota rancher to Jimmy Carter's politically risky stand to protect 150 million acres of Alaskan wilderness. Will and Jim reveal surprising details about these conservation champions, including both Roosevelts' shared passion for birding from childhood and Carter's willingness to sacrifice his presidency to do what he believed was right for America's wild places. The episode also tackles the Hetch Hetchy controversy—the only time in American history that a national park was dammed—and what that 1913 battle taught us about preserving nature versus exploiting it.
But this isn't just a history lesson. Will and Jim also provide practical advice for modern park visitors, from the most underrated national parks (Voyageurs in Minnesota offers the best Northern Lights displays in the continental U.S.) to strategies for avoiding crowds at popular destinations like the Great Smoky Mountains, which welcomes over 12 million visitors annually. They discuss how recent overcrowding challenges reflect Americans falling back in love with their parks and why that's ultimately better than the alternative of apathy and exploitation.
The episode highlights three key conservation presidents who shaped the national park system: Theodore Roosevelt, who created the U.S. Forest Service in 1905 and established five new national parks; Franklin D. Roosevelt, whose birding expertise from childhood informed his creation of 140 wildlife refuges and 29 national forests; and Jimmy Carter, whose Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act (ANILCA) doubled the size of the entire National Park System in 1980. Carter's conservation legacy, often overshadowed by his single presidential term, may prove to be his most enduring achievement as climate change makes preserved wilderness increasingly precious.
Whether you're planning your first national park adventure or you're a seasoned visitor looking for hidden gems, this conversation offers both inspiration and practical guidance. Will and Jim's passion for these protected landscapes is contagious, and their website, More Than Just Parks, has been called home to "the most beautiful videos of America you'll ever watch." This episode reminds us that national parks aren't just tourist destinations—they're living monuments to leaders who had the courage to think beyond their political careers and preserve beauty for generations they'd never meet.
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Credits
Shane Waters — Founder & Host
Produced by Myths & Malice