0:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello, where'd it be? 0:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Is your phone charging melted? 0:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And the sound pump? 0:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you got it on silence? 0:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, dear. 0:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, dear. 0:19 [SPEAKER_01]: She got it on vibrate. 0:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, dear. 0:22 [SPEAKER_01]: vibrate. 0:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, dear. 0:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Him and I was at the lake today, Josh. 0:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, which one? 0:28 [SPEAKER_01]: even though they can. 0:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We had a past Barbie lake. 0:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's up north of Warsaw near Syracuse. 0:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not familiar. 0:38 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have a bunch of likes up there, which is why I can't remember the name of it. 0:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Like my experience of likes is more like to the east of Muncie, like from Muncie to Ohio. 0:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's how we lived out by Brookville. 0:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 0:52 [SPEAKER_02]: There's another, like between Richmond and Muncie. 0:58 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like a 1:00 [SPEAKER_01]: state park not far from Kim's house out in the middle of nowhere. 1:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lake that you can drive around. 1:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with houses. 1:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what it's called. 1:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like you didn't port. 1:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no. 1:11 [SPEAKER_02]: What's that state park by you? 1:14 [SPEAKER_02]: It has a reservoir, but it's kind of like swampy. 1:18 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not as popular as like a lot of other ones. 1:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Not like the monster reservoir? 1:22 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's past that, but not like super far. 1:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of out like past where that omnisch grocery store is, like out in the sandville. 1:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of. 1:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I just can't ever remember the name. 1:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I've only been a handful of times, but it's nice. 1:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 1:37 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right, my favorite place to go swimming, because they have a beach there. 1:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Do they have fish? 1:42 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a reservoir, so you have a day. 1:44 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't, like, I've not had anything touch me. 1:48 [SPEAKER_02]: You know me, I'm just as... 1:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 1:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Jen, if I can find the name of that lake. 1:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say that source with an M, but I know it starts with an H, I think. 1:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see there was an island in the middle of it, though, is real pretty and I was just like me, and that's where my house would be. 2:05 [SPEAKER_02]: There's an island at the monthly reservoirs, kids you should go out there in the middle of it. 2:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Kind of, yeah, kids you should go out there and they're like boats and party on the weekend. 2:14 [SPEAKER_02]: That was like that. 2:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I had a resident who grew up there in like the 70s, 80s. 2:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That reminds me of when we were younger, that graveyard by our grandma's house, when 2:24 [SPEAKER_01]: one of your friends. 2:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Summit Lake. 2:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Summit Lake. 2:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what you're talking. 2:31 [SPEAKER_00]: OK, yeah. 2:32 [SPEAKER_01]: When one of your friends at the graveyard, remember he found that what all cement? 2:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 2:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I think about that too, and they got on it and just went. 2:39 [SPEAKER_02]: In Josh and I were like, no, thanks. 2:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Our grandma, whip our butts. 2:43 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a bad idea. 2:44 [SPEAKER_02]: They got on it and that sunk. 2:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. 2:46 [SPEAKER_01]: All the way to soak and wet. 2:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I was wrong. 2:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It started with a D. D. D. D. D. D. D. D. 2:52 [SPEAKER_02]: We were such non-adventurist children as fur bull ways, but we didn't die. 2:56 [SPEAKER_02]: No, right or get hurt often Yeah, we didn't like rarely did we have a ER visit. 3:02 [SPEAKER_02]: No, and those guys had a like jump off at a little boat They got travel to they had to go home a swampy sewage Drinking water. 3:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, I know how deep that thing was. 3:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting in it personally. 3:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching them too to just went 3:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, it's like there was no getting out of it. 3:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a cement mixer. 3:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 3:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, that's on water roof. 3:21 [SPEAKER_02]: At the graveyard of my grandma's house, we were going to rent our mics up there and two other boys with like, hang out with us sometimes. 3:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Who worried they? 3:30 [SPEAKER_01]: How about they live there? 3:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian. 3:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But they were dead. 3:33 [SPEAKER_01]: They were probably dead. 3:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember his name. 3:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Brian, I'm not gonna say his last name. 3:37 [SPEAKER_02]: But I know, remember here, he says a little tiny boy was fractals, and he always got the lead and the choir. 3:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Cosmises bracket was obsessed with his tiny little hands. 3:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he could say, and now I know I'm glad he did, because I would be embarrassed watching those home videos. 3:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you look at the reservoir and swim there? 3:58 [SPEAKER_02]: In Muncie, occasionally, but we grew up in Alex, so that was, you know, quite a way. 4:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I did not like the reservoir that water so nasty and dirty, for us, it was nasty. 4:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I liked it my first few times there and then I saw the carp swimming on the shore and I was like, no. 4:15 [SPEAKER_00]: The last time I was in a lake was at the place that we used to go camping at when I was a kid. 4:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was probably a teenager. 4:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Have not been in a lake since because something freaking bit my toe. 4:28 [SPEAKER_02]: probably a blue go. 4:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm decided at that point if I can't see the bottom of it. 4:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I ain't getting it. 4:33 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair. 4:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And I, but I know when the first time you got it to a lake was the great flood. 4:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good one. 4:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say we're most of split the rest of the year. 4:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But that was like a worldwide flood. 4:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it back. 4:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in like one other time after that. 4:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was just to watch them out off because we had the monthly reservoir. 4:56 [SPEAKER_02]: We used to go out to like the furthest buoy and jump off the. 5:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Mainly just to stress our mom out because we know that was half the fun. 5:06 [SPEAKER_00]: the only the only time that I felt really safe was when we went on the cruise because it's so clear down there you can see you know that's in the kitchen clear water can fool you on how deep it really is yeah that's true you think it's like a few feet and then you're like oh over my head it was the the island cook good what was the name of the island do you remember 5:29 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I wasn't listening. 5:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay. 5:32 [SPEAKER_02]: When we went to school, okay. 5:33 [SPEAKER_00]: When we went to school, I feel like that's right. 5:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was okay, but they had like a little bay that they had kind of lost dust. 5:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really cool. 5:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Real nice. 5:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so shocked. 5:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I got in the ocean multiple times. 5:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Virginia Florida, Murdoch. 5:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then it's alive and new summer and a beach. 5:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like the shark capital of the world shark bite capital. 5:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I found that out before we went because you know, I love a fun fact. 6:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what's the fun fact about this place? 6:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I love doing that for I go to a new place or shark bite capital of the world. 6:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Not of America. 6:08 [SPEAKER_00]: No, eight higher world. 6:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So mainly small babies. 6:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't get in past my knees. 6:15 [SPEAKER_00]: an inch of water, right? 6:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an inch of water. 6:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm short, but I'm not that short. 6:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of Sophie going in the ground. 6:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He only got to sit in an inch of water. 6:23 [SPEAKER_01]: To blanch. 6:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So we were talking before we got on air about the two people, like that person in Huntington who flipped me off, and I flipped them off, and then called me as Starbucks. 6:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, I told you about when I got to the doctor's office and for Wayne, there was that little man, yelling at the lady in the car, going to a B-word, 6:43 [SPEAKER_01]: people are so angry these days. 6:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, and it was like within an hour of each other. 6:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was just like, man, people just must be not a good mood. 6:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And by that point, I'm not a good person. 6:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It could not tell the 29th. 6:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There you go. 6:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So I get up to the doctor's office, waiting in the lobby, this man works in. 7:02 [SPEAKER_01]: skipping, not really, but he seemed like it. 7:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, personality was just like, hi, and he gets up to the front desk and he's like, hi, it's a great day isn't it? 7:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what the hell is wrong with this dude? 7:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And there you can't be happy to get the front desk was like you just seems actually a good move and he said I am as such a beautiful day ain't it and I just like He walked used to like the people that were mean and grumpy and ground. 7:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a good man. 7:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The whole world is not a good man. 7:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And then this guy's just all jippie japany. 7:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, you got to make your own joy these days. 7:37 [SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure. 7:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I ain't going to, you know, it's easy to be in a bad mood about stuff, but, you know, I'm still alive and I'm going to make the best out of. 7:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Not at, you know, on every second of every day, but well, as this guy was walking out of a doctor's office, he like looks over and he's like, you all have a blast day and you weren't that little too far there. 7:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I turned to the only other person in this way to room. 8:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And with a straight face, I said, I hope the elevator fall. 8:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And they just start cracking up laughing. 8:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, he apparently did not get the memo that everyone is in a bad mood today, and I'm not putting up with him more proud. 8:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I bet he's a serial killer. 8:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just going to wait for me outside. 8:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, who is such an a good mood? 8:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Ridiculous. 8:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like you won the lottery. 8:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you like my day? 8:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 8:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a nice. 8:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure I thought it was pretty. 8:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it nice blouse And I don't have a lot of blouses. 8:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Usually it's love Kim was telling someone a story today about Kim and I being a Vegas And she's like yeah, well, we got to our motel on her. 8:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like how hotel. 8:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hotel She's the same thing To me it is the same thing 8:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Motel murder. 8:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but what I should have said was motor because you can drive your car right up to the It's the same difference as dollar general versus trader jose. 8:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Not the same. 9:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Motel you can drive up to your room 9:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It's my generation. 9:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Leave me be. 9:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, there were more motels back there weren't they used to be like real popular you didn't go to a hotel. 9:15 [SPEAKER_00]: They were too expensive people didn't really go to back when I was a kid and they were all motels. 9:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So now people read other people's houses. 9:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's why I couldn't imagine that in the 90s. 9:27 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I know right you imagine. 9:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to go at a state and we're going to stay at these strangers house, bring all our own sheets. 9:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I mean, I think that I should have been a thing back then. 9:38 [SPEAKER_00]: My gosh, people back then would pick up hitchhikers, you know, and so I think they would, people would probably do that. 9:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, because everything was cash. 9:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And have to be over the phone. 9:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, you have to put in cash. 9:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 9:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But people were more trusted back then. 9:52 [SPEAKER_02]: They'd probably just do like the cash box outside. 9:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you do when you get pumpkins on the side of the road or something. 9:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't ever remember when I was a kid, you know, grandma and Grandpa have to put money down on a reservation. 10:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, I remember so trustworthy. 10:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Now people screw you out of ten cents. 10:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure. 10:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't never remember them doing that, especially when I was really young. 10:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That might change once I got a little bit older. 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what I want? 10:22 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't like camping. 10:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But I want a camper. 10:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I love camper. 10:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I was one little camper. 10:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I can pull and then go somewhere for the weekend. 10:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my idea of camping is in a camper. 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not on a tent in the far safe or Facebook. 10:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I love the vintage ones. 10:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, it's over. 10:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like this vintage or stream done. 10:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, better have good air conditioning because I can't sleep if there's no. 10:47 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I like that outside to look vintage inside to be completely updated 100%. 10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that house is too. 10:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I like good vintage house, but walk in and it's modern. 10:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Good plumbing. 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, I won't want. 11:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So you care about the good plumbing? 11:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, you don't want bad plumbing, and that's like they are little cases. 11:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But are you really prepared to empty the shitter? 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Surely you can do that. 11:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We can. 11:17 [SPEAKER_01]: When you're out of the camera. 11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can. 11:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You can. 11:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I like a teenager. 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, they, well, I don't know if this is what they're really called, but my grapple called them The Honeywagans. 11:30 [SPEAKER_00]: they would, if I would drive around the big tank and they would hook it up and suck the shitter clean out. 11:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that makes sense because if, if they don't do that, you'd have to like drop it into that. 11:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember at the campground, we used to have to put it on the back of the golf cart drive it up the hill to that big cement drain and then drain it as you spray it with a hose. 11:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Most places go down the most places you had to do it that 11:56 [SPEAKER_00]: either have them come and suck it out, or when you love the campground, you'd have to stop at the dump station and dump it that way. 12:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But there were really fancy ones, like the ones that we went to in Tennessee, that they were, you could just hook straight up to the... Oh, you're spot? 12:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's nice. 12:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a rare though. 12:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had direct water and direct sewage. 12:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Which something? 12:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know. 12:22 [SPEAKER_00]: One that we always went to, it was always that way. 12:24 [SPEAKER_02]: you have a generator already. 12:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I do. 12:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And I have solar panels. 12:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm prepared. 12:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Just need a camper. 12:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Kim and I, we'd like to do waste time. 12:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we have gone before to a little camp, like other places that they sell campers. 12:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Tom Wright first. 12:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah. 12:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And just went on, just went and looked at the campers for fun. 12:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:45 [SPEAKER_02]: She'd got a Tom Wright person. 12:46 [SPEAKER_02]: We did. 12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just nip nose around them because I mean some of them are pretty cool. 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah I was like, oh, and I like the ones that have like the nice chairs in the couch Because I look I'll do a lot of things and I'll camp, but I want to camp in a king size bed And I want a chair that's supportive and cushiony and back support. 13:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sitting in the little table thingy 13:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I loved it as a kid that the kitchen table turned into a bed. 13:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I'm not at that age anymore. 13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: No, one of the campers, the second camper that my grandpa had, yeah, we had had three eventually throughout my years. 13:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The second one that we had had, 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: a couch on one side and a couch on the other side. 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So they could be pulled completely together and it was one huge bed, just one huge bed. 13:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, when my grandma started getting really bad, she had Alzheimer's and when she started getting really bad, we decided that we wanted to take a last family trick with grandma because we knew that she would be able to go again. 13:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So in this big ass bed was me, my husband, my mom, and my cousin. 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: We all slept in that big bed. 14:02 [SPEAKER_01]: My gosh. 14:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my ex has been used to tease my mom all the time about sleeping with these mother and law. 14:09 [SPEAKER_02]: See that'll make a break. 14:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Whether or not I'm going someplace is the sleeping arrangements. 14:14 [SPEAKER_02]: If that's okay. 14:16 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and I'm not like, you know, it doesn't have to be, you know, super fancy, but AC and a good bed. 14:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay. 14:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to make it up and be. 14:24 [SPEAKER_02]: We can make it spot on the floor. 14:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm, uh, ha. 14:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Holiday. 14:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I will stay home. 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I meet you in the morning. 14:30 [SPEAKER_02]: There ain't no place I want to go bad enough to stay in the floor. 14:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we not stand. 14:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I've gotten to places with friends that you rent and then you get down you're like, well, I'm not sleeping here. 14:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna stay at the holiday. 14:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I'll be back here in the morning. 14:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This is gross. 14:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, a pullout couch. 14:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's gonna hurt. 14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know why the people's homes either. 14:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I'm not, I'm not that I'm not about that. 14:55 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like friends, I guess. 14:56 [SPEAKER_02]: That room, you know, or you know, you like a baby. 14:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I got Kims. 15:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't mind staying in it. 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Not, I don't mind at Kims, but like, there's a lot of my friends if they want to like invite me over and they'd be like, oh, you can just say that I'd be like, I like the feeling of having my own space. 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was going to go to a hotel and then I'd be like, I'll be back here in the morning. 15:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We've just, we've known each other for so long. 15:18 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not really friends anymore. 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: We're family now. 15:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 15:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And so it doesn't really matter as much. 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Friends, you're like, worried about being too loud or waking up too early, or, you know, you were like, I ain't gonna wake that big yet. 15:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We met a new person today. 15:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Her name was Heather at the lake. 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Kimberly over here was talking to another lady that we know. 15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And she was telling her about her dead daughter. 15:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Amber. 15:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And which is all fun. 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I can all do and do. 15:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But then Kim threw me on a bus with in front of this new lady. 15:51 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, yeah, Shane calls my other daughter at the one that's still alive. 15:56 [SPEAKER_01]: The not so pretty one. 15:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, that's true, it's true. 16:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Access facts. 16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The lady Heather did not think he was funny. 16:06 [SPEAKER_02]: She was just like, we wanted to keep people away. 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And she heard us talk about that. 16:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We like to visit dead presidents. 16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we like to go visit dead people. 16:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And thank you. 16:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the tears, yeah. 16:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:15 [SPEAKER_01]: We want that. 16:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We want that. 16:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We want that. 16:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We want that. 16:17 [SPEAKER_02]: We want that. 16:18 [SPEAKER_00]: We want that. 16:22 [SPEAKER_00]: some kind of an in-law or something to you. 16:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to the lady who we were at. 16:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We were at someone's lake house. 16:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It was her son's husband. 16:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Her son's her son's daughter. 16:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope. 16:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Her son's mother-in-law. 16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Her son's wife's mother. 16:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, there we go. 16:41 [SPEAKER_00]: We got it. 16:41 [SPEAKER_00]: We got it. 16:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We know what we're talking about. 16:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So for all of you joining us this week and for next week, 16:52 [SPEAKER_01]: to pick a documentary, and then we would talk about it. 16:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, what do you do with John? 16:59 [SPEAKER_02]: See what snacks I had. 17:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm new, you're doing that, I know you're doing that. 17:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So in this episode, Kim is going to give us her mystery of the week, which is the documentary that she picked and watched. 17:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And that means Josh, you can do your snack, and you can, we need like a little popcorn maker. 17:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Just make sure you pull this one, just make sure you pull this away from your face so that you don't know. 17:19 [SPEAKER_00]: People are not airing you, bro. 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 17:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're welcome people have all of our friends listening. 17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I watch both of them as well. 17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: One after the other, both are very good. 17:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Kim, what was it that you picked and watched streaming service? 17:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Can they watch it on? 17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was called the jewel thief and it was on Hulu. 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever watched a Josh? 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have Hulu? 17:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's the one he does 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought I didn't have it either, but I was like, maybe I'd do because I have the app on my Apple TV and I clicked it and it worked. 17:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I have Netflix and HBO. 17:52 [SPEAKER_02]: How's it, the Dragon's bag? 17:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we were talking about, you know, Jane says pick one and so I started looking through different ones and I'm like, okay, I told him, I think I found it, but I want to, you know, start watching a first and see if it's 18:07 [SPEAKER_00]: what I'm really wanting right so I started watching it and I don't think I was more than 15 or 20 minutes into it and I'm like yep this is it. 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised I never heard of it because it came out in July of 2023 so it's been out for a while. 18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's just one episode that's not a series. 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was 100 minutes. 18:26 [SPEAKER_00]: That was, let's say it was about an hour and a half or so. 18:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was really good though. 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It is about this guy named Geralt Blanchard. 18:34 [SPEAKER_00]: He was actually born in 72 in Canada. 18:37 [SPEAKER_00]: his mother in a peg. 18:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and when a peg, his mother and his father his real dad was 17 and his mom was only 15 when he was born. 18:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was given up for adoption and he was adopted at the age of six days old. 18:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So no. 18:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 18:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right. 18:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I'm right. 18:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I said watch to again last night 19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he moved to the states. 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So his adoptive mom and her husband got divorced. 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And was the I I didn't catch the date on her how old he was on that one. 19:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And he moved to Omaha with his mom and sister. 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Which I wonder which is in Nebraska, right. 19:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And they lived in poverty. 19:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were very poor. 19:24 [SPEAKER_01]: They were very poor. 19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They were very poor. 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about, so he was talking about how poor that they were and that he had to use ginger ale for cereal, because they couldn't afford milk. 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said that he would go to his neighbor's house to steal milk. 19:43 [SPEAKER_00]: for his cereal. 19:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, his mother, his adopted mother was in it also, and they asked her about it, and she says, he didn't do that. 19:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So it makes you wonder throughout the whole thing. 19:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and as soon as the series starts, or as soon as the episode starts, it's like in the forest and in a lake, and then it's like based on a true story. 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kinda. 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like kind of it's always like oh, I don't think it's that bass. 20:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I said I think it just said this is a truce Yeah, kind of yeah The word I don't remember the room. 20:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it did. 20:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it fades out and then it says kind of it's small little 20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I think I think it said that because some people like he's in it and he he talks and then he tells you his version And then you hear from the police and Witnesses and his mom and they're like, uh, it didn't exactly happen that way. 20:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you're not real sure which one of them's right 20:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 20:38 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the big points that I thought was really interesting that the adoptive mother talks about, which we can just color his mom, was he mentioned that one of the formative moments that he remembered as a kid was hearing his mom argue with the bank. 20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was because one of the family members that was close that lived by them was being foreclosed on. 21:00 [SPEAKER_00]: They were. 21:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They were being, yes, it was them. 21:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They were being foreclosed. 21:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And so because of that, he had a very negative impression of the bank of banks and period. 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're the bad people. 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, later in the series, his mom is talking about how she also felt that the banks were fraud. 21:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they're just saying wrong. 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that that probably set his mind and emotion of life, well, these are bad people. 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I can do bad things to them and it'd be okay. 21:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's no victim in it. 21:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 21:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Now his mom described him as a kid is that he was kind of nerdy kid. 21:36 [SPEAKER_00]: He was real thin, tall and lanky, he had blonde hair and glasses. 21:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was kind of a nerdy kid. 21:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He had dyslexia too in the speech impediment. 21:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 21:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't get you. 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And they said that he'd like to build things and tinker with things. 21:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So his friends and people on the street, so to speak, called him a guyver. 21:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So that tells you what era, this is in, you know, in the 80s because my guyver was really big. 22:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Better build things than taking a part animal. 22:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he also spent more than four years at Boystown. 22:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Josh didn't 22:17 [SPEAKER_01]: other flan again high school. 22:19 [SPEAKER_02]: That's hilarious. 22:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he said that mixing with other kids there opened his eyes on ways of making money through crime Public school. 22:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding. 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So in the 1980s, he gets a video camera and this is what kind of what? 22:36 [SPEAKER_00]: what made me think, okay, this is definitely something that I want to watch. 22:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He gets a video camera and he starts documenting everything in his life. 22:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He starts stealing things from convenience stores and other places. 22:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And he documented every single bit of it. 22:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It's video taped. 22:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And all the way through the documentary, it has footage from the camera that he did throughout his whole life. 23:02 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the person to influence her, just to bad. 23:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The right one. 23:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and one of the things that I thought was really interesting to hear is, as he's talking about his early life in committing crimes and those type of things, 23:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't seem that it was always about money. 23:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he was just trying to live a very private lifestyle and that's why he was for the thrill of it. 23:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he enjoyed the thrill. 23:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in the beginning it was because he was poor and stuff. 23:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But the later, you know, the later that he got because he started making a lot of money and the later it got he didn't do it for the money. 23:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He did it for the thrill of it. 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: adrenaline junkie. 23:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, he did start stealing stuff when he was in just a teenager. 23:46 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a very old. 23:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And the first thing that he actually stole was four cartons of cigarettes when he started recording himself. 23:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So he had stolen stuff before that. 23:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the first thing that he actually put on camera. 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was he had taken four cards of cigarettes and his evolution of crime. 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Also escalated over time. 24:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He starts stealing food first out of need and then it escalated to electronics specifically at a radio shot, which I thought was hilarious. 24:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on an Easter Sunday when he was 15, him and a bunch of his buddies, they decided that they were going to break into the local radio shack, they got a box truck. 24:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of his friends must have been older because he didn't have a license at this point and they stole everything out of that. 24:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, not that VHS is right. 24:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But his early signature hustle he was talking about what stealing merchandise and then forging receipts and then he'd return that merchandise to the store. 24:43 [SPEAKER_00]: This guy was he was really ingenious. 24:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:46 [SPEAKER_00]: He had some of the things that he did you're like 24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And he claimed that this whole scheming that he had done, while he was still in high school, he was pulling in several thousand dollars a week. 25:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Jesus. 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 25:01 [SPEAKER_02]: We were just talking about how more trusting people were back in the eighties. 25:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he bought us first house at 16. 25:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's 16. 25:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He told his mom that him and his buddy were buying it off of his buddy's cousin, and they were going to splint the mortgage, but he had flat-out paid cash for the house. 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because of all the stuff that he swindled out of people. 25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And you talked about him stealing from Radio Shaq, didn't you? 25:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you talk about him stealing from Radio Shaq? 25:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I started to, but they did figure out when he stole all that stuff from the Radio Shaq, they did figure out who'd done it and swap showed up, but he's house to a rest him. 25:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and before they came in, he called his mom and said, Mom, you might want to come home the swats here and they're going to arrest me. 25:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So she had to go home because he was getting arrested. 25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He ended up with just getting probation for two years off of that. 25:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Still everything out of a store and was starting to sell it. 26:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He was selling it to friends and teachers and got two years of probation, Jesus. 26:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And then while he's on probation, he was selling some of that stolen goods to his probation. 26:14 [SPEAKER_00]: To his probation officer. 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk about corrupt. 26:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the hell? 26:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've still one time, you know, before I even started school, we're at like a thrift shop. 26:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted this dolphin like across body bag. 26:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also wanted this other toy. 26:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like action figure, but I could only get one. 26:36 [SPEAKER_02]: So I put the action figure in the dolphin bag. 26:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And when we got out to the vehicle, we were in the back seat of an open it and I was like, Shane, look, he's so crying. 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought we were going to jail. 26:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And they turned around and made me go back and confess. 26:52 [SPEAKER_02]: The lady let me keep it. 26:53 [SPEAKER_02]: They were like 25 cent toys. 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like all that poor little girl. 26:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like Shane look. 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I got both. 26:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I was so proud of myself. 27:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I think. 27:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I've accidentally stolen things before not realizing that I did. 27:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it was under something in the cart. 27:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't give me a camera. 27:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that type of stuff. 27:10 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I really remember stealing is a kid. 27:14 [SPEAKER_00]: was for some reason we was at the grocery store and I don't know why but there was this little bitty thing of salt and it was like in a like the Morton's you know container. 27:24 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was was a little bitty thing of Morton salt and I thought that was just adorable. 27:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was so cute. 27:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I mean, put that little sucker right in my pocket and went right out the door. 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was really, I was wrong. 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I was right for my barbees. 27:39 [SPEAKER_01]: When I was really young, the only thing I ever remember stealing was I always remember like there were like little newspaper things that you could pick up on the way out of grocery stores and stuff. 27:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were free. 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But apparently, at strongs in Alexandria, I remember I was with my grandma. 27:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Charles was there, but he was much younger than I was. 27:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw this little paper as you walked out. 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So I picked it up and was looking at it and got in the car and I sit in the back seat. 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And my grandma looks in the rear view mirror. 28:07 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, where'd you get that? 28:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, in the store on the way out. 28:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, you stole that newspaper and I was like, 28:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, Ryan, maybe go in and confess my sins to the cast share. 28:20 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's a lot of purpose. 28:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You used to get those like car. 28:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a lot of things. 28:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 28:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Just page of page of cars. 28:29 [SPEAKER_02]: All this cars, yeah. 28:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Auto trader. 28:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So, like I said, his mom was being interviewed through this, too, and she was talking about when about this, what, how much they destroyed her house, but we're by searching it and stuff and she says, they even, they even dumped out my underwear drawer. 28:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, who would put electronics in there under? 28:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Never know. 28:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I never mind. 28:52 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about that because she realized what she was talking about and I thought oh my god, that is so funny. 28:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I laughed so hard that cracked me up so bad. 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I put underwear. 29:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, trying to score. 29:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So the the whole Easter Sunday thing when he was 15 and stole from the radio shack that was 1987. 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Just give you a time frame of where we're at. 29:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not that long ago. 29:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, around 1990, he was then arrested in Iowa with an incendiary device. 29:28 [SPEAKER_02]: The hell is that? 29:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Some of that catches on some on fire. 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it's a device that you can use to like break in a stuff. 29:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And then in late 1991, he was arrested again, and then he escaped custody twice. 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the first time that he escaped, he. 29:48 [SPEAKER_00]: They had taken him in because he had gotten arrested and took him into the interrogation room. 29:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The cop that was in there interrogated him, they had to leave for something or another. 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He worked out. 29:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He walks out of the room and he takes the grate off of the duck in the ceiling and he gets climbs up in there and he hides in there. 30:08 [SPEAKER_00]: and the cop comes back and oh my god he's escaped you know so they go out and try to find him and he just sits up there and waits for them to all leave and then he gets out and goes tries to go back home. 30:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he also grabs on his way out, a badge, a gun, a radio, and he also slipped his handcuffs off because he's slid him underneath through his legs. 30:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So they were still on, but they, he's slid him underneath his legs. 30:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And he took a bullet. 30:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, off of one of the detectives desk and he puts a smiley face on it and then leaves it back in. 30:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Just on in the middle of his death. 30:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He also still a police cruiser. 30:50 [SPEAKER_02]: My god. 30:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my favorite that was the second that was after they caught yeah after they caught in that's right. 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He went home. 30:56 [SPEAKER_00]: They caught him again 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he was actually, they found him naked in the back of some closet and they didn't even let him put clothes on and they handcuffed him and took him and put him in the car naked. 31:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he ends up stealing the police cruiser naked. 31:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It got handcuffs. 31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in handcuffs. 31:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my favorite though is that he's driving this cruiser and there's like this stop point where there was like I think it was an accident or something. 31:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So there was a police officer there, you know, and there's directing traffic or whatever And he's the police officers and he's being interviewed and he's like yeah, this police cruiser comes up and he's like I did the you know, oh, hey officer wave and he did that and he said and then I realized the guy driving had no clothes on 31:45 [SPEAKER_02]: He was real smiley and then he like wave at me with his handcuffs and just drove off. 31:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And guys like did I just see that and then he took out he ran into his car and took off after. 31:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, why would you hide? 32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I turn around. 32:03 [SPEAKER_01]: roll the one that's very blazing. 32:05 [SPEAKER_00]: No, did you realize that there was a few places in this that he would say something and then at the end of it, he'd go, I was so creeped out. 32:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The first time that he did that, I don't remember what it was that he said exactly, but then he was talking about somebody being hurt or something like that and then he had this evil little laugh and all that is so creeped out. 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I think it was like he was reliving it. 32:31 [SPEAKER_01]: like he's thinking about he like yeah probably in 1993 he was sentenced to seven years in Iowa for theft and arson and he only served about four years it's Canada no I mean I'm sorry that was Iowa yeah and he got deported back to Canada yeah in 1997 he got deported to Canada I'm like deport me I want to go back to Canada yeah he served three and a half years 32:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So by 1998, he's back in Canada, and he starts putting his sights on higher things, which would say that. 33:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The target that really made him famous was the, I don't know how you pronounce it, maybe. 33:13 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the diamond pearl. 33:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right. 33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That's right. 33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It was one of 27 diamond and 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: From 1860, it was worth roughly $2 million, but far more important to history. 33:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He knew when he did that, that at some point in his life, he would need it for some leverage. 33:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So he takes it to his grandmother's house and hides it in his grandmother's house. 33:42 [SPEAKER_01]: In the wall. 33:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate that. 33:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And then so that thing was on a public loan from the palace in Vienna. 33:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 33:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was an exhibit marking the 100th anniversary of the Empress's assassination. 33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It just recently found more of those. 33:57 [SPEAKER_00]: really. 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He he I cased it out as a tourist looking at it and he video taped the display during the visit. 34:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He was actually married at the time. 34:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah and so he was there as a visitor with his wife's family. 34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The dad was a wealthy person so he had a special VIP access to to see it. 34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing he 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, she had no idea that, you know, that's where he had his money or anything like that. 34:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she didn't know that he had his money. 34:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is one of the instances where the story splits. 34:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So he has his own version and then the police have theirs. 34:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The police's version says that Blanchard simply returned as a tourist, disabled the alarm and used something simple like a knife to work the alarm rods. 34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: He unscrewed the case and swapped to the genuine star for a replica that he bought in the gift and the gift shop in the palace and it just took about a minute. 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But Blanchard's version says he chartered a small plane. 34:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, parachuteed onto the palace roof and the dark he climbed down and entered through a window that he had unlocked earlier. 35:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And I won't add that there was a parachute found near the Palestinians. 35:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So you have to make your own good. 35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So whether or not, you know, you don't know what is an embellishment and what's not, but they're he also did say that he had to be careful because he didn't want to be charged for that. 35:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So he couldn't give all of the details. 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he couldn't say that he actually took it. 35:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He was like scurting around that he was, that he, how he'd done it anyway. 35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He tried to work to do that. 35:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because they could still. 35:41 [SPEAKER_01]: The director, though, at that facility, said the parachute story was impossible to verify and he calls it a game of telephone. 35:49 [SPEAKER_01]: He also mentioned that Blanchard shifts around his account on purpose because admitting to the theft could expose him to extradition. 35:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But whatever the math of the gift shot replica did go unnoticed for about three weeks. 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 36:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 36:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And the case actually stayed unsolved for nine years. 36:06 [SPEAKER_01]: No one knew until Blanchard confessed to it. 36:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It told them where it was. 36:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which I wonder, you know, in Paris at that whole thing. 36:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if that's just like sitting in someone's grandma's wall. 36:17 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the jewels that they stole. 36:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, the crown. 36:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, never thought about that, but yeah could be. 36:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But his own restated version for picking the star. 36:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He said that he just thought it was pretty. 36:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He said it on because the crown he originally wanted was harder to reach. 36:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I probably would have hid something at grandma's if I stole it like that. 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I can the wood room. 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 36:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Kick up like one of the wooden wall things and you want to think to like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 36:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He did end up getting divorced. 36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: She found out that he had a rap sheet and she divorced him. 37:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Good for her. 37:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And he gets hooked up with some guy called the boss and was very mysterious. 37:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Mysterious guy and she had empty ATM cards like blank ATM cards. 37:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So him and a couple other people 37:16 [SPEAKER_00]: using these blank ATM cards to pull money out of the ATM machines and they hundreds of thousands of dollars. 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But at some point the police start like why are listening in on his calls and so they were they had no idea about any of this and so like they're listening to the calls and they're like oh my. 37:35 [SPEAKER_01]: God, he didn't want to run. 37:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Now we just thought he was robbing some banks. 37:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He had like 22 different identities, aliases. 37:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So every time he would get in trouble, he'd use a different alias. 37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So they weren't connecting him to all of these things that were going on. 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't know it was him. 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then in the instance, like Kim's talking about, that all happened in Cairo, so he actually flew out to Egypt, disguised himself at another person, and then was able to defeat ATM camera so that they wouldn't capture him, and he pulled more than a million dollars over roughly 10 days using the stolen card data, and then they would just wipe the cards so that if they were found that no one wouldn't know that it was theirs. 38:17 [SPEAKER_01]: This is such a vintage crime, I don't think you could do. 38:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 38:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they were in Europe as all those cameras, but the center piece around the entire story is this specific bank job, which happened in Winnipeg in 2004, Blanchard's grandmother mentioned kind of offhand that her local CIBC bank branch was closing and they were consolidating into a new mega branch. 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: At that point in time, he realized that the bank is going to be under construction and they're going to have no life security. 38:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So kind of brilliantly, he poses a construction worker. 38:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, it goes and buys a hard hat. 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: In a Home Depot vest, he makes night visits to the bank. 39:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He planted a pinhole camera, a transmitter, and a $50 baby monitor, and he built a full replica of the ATM room so that he could rehearse. 39:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He mounted a removable drywall handles, so he could pass through walls, and he worked 39:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all of it very well thought through, like the fact that he put in some fake doors with drywall that he could just simply walk through, like how brilliant. 39:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Then the night before the Rand opening, he went in about eight minutes later, police responded because the alarm went off, which he knew that once he got into the back of an ATM that the alarm would go off, there was no way he could prevent that. 39:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So he went in, the alarm goes off. 39:56 [SPEAKER_01]: When the police get there, they find that the doors are all locked. 40:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They assumed false trigger and they left. 40:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, he was still inside. 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He ended up walking out with somewhere between $50750,000. 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It was $750. 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They actually counted it after they got it out. 40:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, $750. 40:18 [SPEAKER_01]: The whole job, though, unraveled for a very small reason. 40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: A Walmart employee in the next lot reported there is a suspicious van. 40:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he duplicated that all across Canada. 40:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 40:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So he would do it in one part of Canada. 40:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he would, you know, cash in that pity, he'd go to a different part of Canada and would set up the whole thing again and cash in there. 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was bouncing back and forth from one into the country to the other. 40:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there were some of them that Walmart who solved the van and the van, they were able to trace back, had been rented in his real name, so they were able to like, that's when he got on their radar, and that's when they started wire tapping him. 40:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I also thought it was really interesting because, you know, the police get there to the bank. 41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, oh, false alarm. 41:03 [SPEAKER_01]: It's under construction and he's still in there. 41:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's still holding money. 41:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, there is no. 41:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And no one knows that until the next day when the bank people go there and I think that they said that they thought something was wrong with ATM. 41:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And so they go and they're like, they go up to it and they see that they haven't broken into and then all the money is gone. 41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're talking a lot of money. 41:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a brand new machine. 41:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So typically they wouldn't have that much money in there. 41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, stock it up. 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're like, this is a, you know, consolidated branch. 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get a lot of people and a lot of business. 41:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Got to have a fall and he's like, ideal. 41:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So eventually he does get caught and he's indicted on 16 counts of theft and fraud facing jail time of 164 years in prison. 41:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the one thing that he. 41:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And in that instance, though, in the bank, like think about all the brain work, how brilliant it was, and he went through all of that, and they never would have pinpointed him if it wasn't for he put the van in his name. 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 42:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That one little mistake. 42:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how they got him on their radar. 42:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So when he knew that he was, you know, in some serious trouble with the 164, he knew that if he could give them something, that he could make some sort of a deal. 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's when he told them where that hairpiece was out and they took him to his grandmother's house to get that hairpiece. 42:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And because of Canada's different than what it is the United States, if it's not a 42:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what am I trying to think of? 42:40 [SPEAKER_01]: A violent crime. 42:40 [SPEAKER_00]: A violent crime. 42:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't get as much time. 42:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So he ended up with a seven year sentence. 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It was originally a 54 charges, but they got it down to 16, which is covered robbery in fraud and Canada in a broad. 42:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He faced a maximum of roughly 160 years, but was just sentenced to eight years. 43:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my God. 43:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. 43:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And he didn't even 43:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He served roughly 18 months, and then was put on parole. 43:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Haven't they learned he's going to just do it again? 43:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and he did. 43:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He ended up going back to jail for something that didn't come. 43:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, afterwards he did. 43:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember exactly what it was for, but it was only like for six months. 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It was theft. 43:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right. 43:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And he pled guilty to one, one charge. 43:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And he received six months. 43:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is traditional sentence in three years. 43:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really nice to use to America's harsh. 43:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I know. 43:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, well, I mean, I'm a bank here. 43:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. 43:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's what he mentioned that. 43:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like robbing a bank in Canada as a slap on the wrist. 43:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, in America, you'll be put in behind bars from a life. 43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's basically where the thing ends and so I was really curious and I wanted to like figure out because one thing I know about documentaries is they have an agenda, you know, and they have to make it entertaining. 44:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So they'll leave stuff out on purpose. 44:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was wondering like, well, what did they leave out of here? 44:08 [SPEAKER_01]: What else was out there? 44:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I pinpointed some of the things and I was trying to get more information. 44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: One of them, the real method of the Vienna theft of the jewels, 44:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he pleaded guilty in Canada to possession, not to the theft itself. 44:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Just possession. 44:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I had it, I don't, I found it. 44:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So he couldn't say more on camera to expose himself to Austrian extradition. 44:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So the single most famous crime in the entire film, we don't actually know what happened. 44:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He can only give that piece. 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The second point that I wanted to try to find more information about was that mysterious the boss figure, we know that this was a London person who allegedly directed the international crime jobs that he was a part of, and that this person possibly had ties to Kurdish militia funding. 44:57 [SPEAKER_01]: there was even talk about guns at one point that they and we don't know if his identity was ever found or if he was charged with anything there's no follow up that I could ever find on this the boss character the third point that I wanted to find more about was accomplices there were actually seven people who were arrested with him during his crimes and they all walked with conditional sentences 45:22 [SPEAKER_01]: None of them appear in the film and the proportionality of the deal that they had to agree to was never talked about our exam. 45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we don't know what they gave up in order for them to not get time. 45:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The other piece is the victims of these crimes. 45:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That was never really touched on. 45:40 [SPEAKER_01]: They, of course, included the banks, the Egyptian ATM customers, the Austrian institution that lost the star for a decade. 45:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't get a whole lot of attention in it. 45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: They went 10 years without that jewel, you know? 45:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So the whole story is really framed around Blanchard's crimes and kind of his charm. 46:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he seems like a really likable person in it and like very interesting, and that's like kind of what the gif of the documentary is. 46:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like aology of it, interested me. 46:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So I documented that there were several critics 46:17 [SPEAKER_01]: that noted that when you watch it, he has almost all the screen time. 46:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean it is about him and he stays very opaque. 46:26 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like this mysterious figure that you kind of want to know more about. 46:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They were talking in the beginning of it. 46:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They were talking about how they they thought he was like a James Bond because of how he could, you know, do all of this stuff and not get caught 46:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But he never gives much details about anything, not just that Vienna crime, but a lot of things. 46:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And so some of the reviews I saw were people are like, I'm not sure there's a there there. 46:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you don't know what's real, what's not. 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's just like, oh yeah, parachute. 47:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It just cracked me up how he'd talk about something and then you have that little giggle. 47:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 47:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It just gives me the creek. 47:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He gave me the creeps a couple different times. 47:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So I also wanted to figure out what has happened since the film came out because of course it came out out a few years ago and then it probably was filmed two or three years prior to that. 47:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So life after he got out of prison he reportedly tried to do security consulting but it never really took off so he worked in Vancouver as a drone operator in an aerial 47:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a kind of, yeah, it's an African Wildcat, and he brought his cats to fashion shoots and car shows, what a nerd. 47:51 [SPEAKER_01]: In March 22nd of 2017, he was arrested with an accomplice for stealing about $3,000 of playstations from a Best Buy in Burlington, Ontario, after following, yeah, so he was following 48:11 [SPEAKER_01]: doing the same thing before the getaway car was rented as well in his real last name for this instance. 48:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk about a big spending, you know, he went for a jewel and in a castle overseas. 48:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bring him windows at Best Buy. 48:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And also didn't learn about the rentals. 48:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 48:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And then also after the 2023 film, he has given interviews to a rolling stone in time. 48:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He said he still has five or six methods that he has never used and refused to roll out future crime saying never say never. 48:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He is reporting idiot. 48:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 48:49 [SPEAKER_01]: He's reportedly 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was about 51 or 52 at the time of the interviews, but there's no confirmed crimes of surfaced since these interviews of any crimes that he could be tied to. 49:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess in Canada he's very well known because of the bank robberies and of course the crown jewel. 49:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I can see why his security thing never went. 49:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would you want to hire somebody that's got a wrap sheet that long? 49:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 49:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So there was a 2015 book. 49:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you see that? 49:23 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 49:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's called Stealing Sissy Star and it covers the theft. 49:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And a dramatized Hollywood film has been discussed, but not made based on that book. 49:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The director who might be casting for it, 49:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so it's a very interesting documentary. 49:44 [SPEAKER_01]: There's several points where I'm like, oh, I don't know what's real, what's not. 49:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 49:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That was that way, too. 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 49:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was really interesting and it's funny, though, because 49:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Robbing banks is one of those things where no one likes banks, just like insurance company, if someone stole money from an insurance company. 50:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, good for them. 50:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Good for you. 50:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like Robin Hood. 50:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Also took it all. 50:07 [SPEAKER_00]: The way they got all of that footage was after one of his arrests. 50:12 [SPEAKER_00]: His girlfriend or one of his accomplices told them that there was a hidden room in his apartment or house or wherever it was that he lived and had all of this stuff in it for, you know, keepsakes and all of his DVDs that he had made of him stealing all this stuff so they had 50:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they described the room as like something out of a movie. 50:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Like almost like he was a spy and he had all this stuff and right, like his room of treasures. 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 50:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But also the room that he kept all his tools in because, you know, you don't want someone coming over to the house and me like, right, you got all this electronic stuff to rob banks for. 51:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Why do you need so many VCRs? 51:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 51:04 [SPEAKER_01]: it was really interesting it was yeah it was interesting like figure out what was real what wasn't it really had me when he bought the camera and started documenting all of it I'm like this is going to get really good one of the funny parts too was that he was describing the second time like after he escaped and they arrested him 51:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, he's telling the stories like, yeah, and then we pull up to I think it was the jail or something and he's like, there were all this media there taking pictures and stuff and the officer who was with him, he's like, that did not happen there was no media so it was just so funny how he's like, yeah, there's all this media is flashing you know, 51:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a good documentary. 51:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you picked it. 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, when I first saw it on Hulu, I was like, I feel like I would have watched this. 51:56 [SPEAKER_01]: This was in a good, because it kind of reminded me of the museum robbery one. 52:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so I was like, but then it started out in the first five minutes. 52:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't know. 52:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 52:16 [SPEAKER_01]: This is getting a little dry. 52:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, I was like, okay. 52:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I once I got to the part where he was recording everything and they're showing all of the footage, you know, live, not really live, but the taped version of everything that he done. 52:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, oh my gosh, it's going to show you a lot of stuff that he had done. 52:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And I really liked they had like some footage of one of the robber like he went to go robin ATM at a bank and he like threw the the tarp over it and over him so people couldn't see what he was doing because at night he's just like oh no one's gonna catch me and then he starts like drilling into it and he starts opening up and putting all the money in the cops like swarming Jesus. 52:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they got like real pictures of 52:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And he had canisters of smoke and like smoke bombs and Underneath there with it through them out At where they couldn't see him and he took off running and he ran. 53:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He hid underneath the car. 53:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And they ended up having dogs since they tried them down. 53:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I was wondering why they haven't broken that. 53:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like our dog. 53:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 53:21 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really interesting though. 53:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It was. 53:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It was something different than, you know, the normal murder. 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no one was killed. 53:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No one was killed. 53:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I like like non-challan documentaries kind of like that. 53:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 53:34 [SPEAKER_02]: For you're like, cause some, you know, I like a good deep one. 53:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I'm like, oh, I can't handle that. 53:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was just kind of a fun. 53:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was fun. 53:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It was good. 53:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I enjoyed it. 53:46 [SPEAKER_01]: yeah sounds interesting yeah but next week we're going to hear Josh's yes it's not as lighthearted no it's my remarks are though oh I 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