0:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I do need a drink, though. 0:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So I told you guys before that I'm looking again how tough didn't I? 0:11 [SPEAKER_00]: No, yes, you can do my job. 0:14 [SPEAKER_00]: My bank was just me. 0:16 [SPEAKER_02]: It might have just been me. 0:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good idea. 0:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So, have you guys seen your heart tough recently? 0:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah. 0:23 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 0:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I look out for it. 0:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah. 0:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh. 0:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know if that's inflatable ones. 0:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I'm not trash. 0:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh well I'm a renting. 0:32 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true that you went one hour real one. 0:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So I went to showrooms and Fort Wayne and the action I was expensive as what I thought they would be like I thought I thought I think like around five or six grand. 0:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they more than that or cheap one? 0:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Kim look when you're in my height. 0:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got to get the dollar. 0:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get yeah you got to get something you can sit in. 0:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to sit in a hot tub and my whole half top of my body sticking out 0:59 [SPEAKER_01]: My name should be like, who's that middle-aged woman over there without a scarf on? 1:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably. 1:05 [SPEAKER_00]: She bald too. 1:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, hey. 1:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Bitch. 1:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway. 1:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So when we're this little showroom, and it was just one location for me, and I wasn't really impressed by the guy who was helping. 1:19 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, you know, just giving you tips and stuff. 1:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that you walked away with knowing is he said, like, 1:28 [SPEAKER_01]: board was cement that he's like you'll want to put the plug on the ground so the hot tub can sit on it. 1:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like okay I guess I wouldn't follow that. 1:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Well I went to second showroom, same company, second showroom. 1:44 [SPEAKER_01]: walked in real helpful guy real good. 1:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He was getting into hot tubs. 1:50 [SPEAKER_01]: They were didn't have water and I'm getting in and I'm in like shook because he was six three and he was showing me where has, you know, and he's like telling me about the internet outside of our men. 1:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I was sitting there. 1:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Was it kind of up selling or nothing? 2:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I was in your think and to see him swim suit on to be given in and out of his heart to a badgy smug. 2:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But he was so good and he kind of reminded me of like maybe he was in the mafia because he was just like, yeah, and if you need an electrician, I know a guy. 2:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I got it. 2:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I got it. 2:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I got it. 2:20 [SPEAKER_01]: If you need a delivery, I know I got it. 2:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You just calling that at the end. 2:25 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, here's my cell phone number. 2:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You just call me. 2:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You text me when you need something. 2:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be your left hand man. 2:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I got it. 2:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You just kept talking about that. 2:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And the way that he spoke it reminded me of that. 2:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He might have been in the mafia or something. 2:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but have you guys seen the poems? 2:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 2:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And those things are freaking massive. 2:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 2:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I walked in and there's two of them off to the left and I was like, what's that room? 3:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw stairs going up and I was like, 3:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a pool? 3:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, what's a hot tub pool combo? 3:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I want to see in it. 3:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Other massive. 3:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me see you there. 3:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They had smaller ones. 3:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, yeah, you can tether yourself to this bar. 3:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's like, jats that will make you swim. 3:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it sounds like four stacks of size. 3:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just here for a hangout. 3:30 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, it was a pleasant experience of the second. 3:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But by the end, he's like, now, if you don't need my guy to come and do your electric, I will tell you that a lot of times the electricians will be like, now, when we put this in for your hot tub, we're gonna put it in the floor, but he's like, do not do that. 3:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They always want you to do that hot tub people want you to do that because it's so stupid. 3:55 [SPEAKER_01]: First of all, the space that they have to put the hot tub down on it so it'll be so small to get that little thing just right. 4:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And so you're never going to be happy with how much room you have on either side of this hot tub. 4:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, 4:10 [SPEAKER_01]: and also think about it. 4:12 [SPEAKER_01]: At some point in time, you made a side. 4:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that hot type anymore. 4:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to have this stupid plug-in that's flat on the round outside, face up. 4:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, so it doesn't make any sense. 4:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do it. 4:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't use it for anything else. 4:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And if there's a problem with it, you have to tear up your whole patio. 4:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, 4:36 [SPEAKER_01]: You make it lots of sense. 4:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Like see this is like, lots of sense. 4:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But it was just so funny. 4:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just like, I know a guy. 4:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I know a guy. 4:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, now, whatever hot tub you want, there's going to be a price on it. 4:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But I can get you a better deal. 4:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you worry. 4:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, and if you don't mind like a little imperfections, he's like, then I get you a real good deal. 4:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Because like, we are factory sometimes. 4:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll find an imperfection. 5:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They can't sell it for the full price. 5:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's like, 5:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They never big problems. 5:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no, okay. 5:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of the, there's like a, a lead that goes over the, the filter and stuff and he's like, and if it moves at all, they have discretion, dent the whole thing. 5:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I don't care if he has a lead. 5:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But if it saves me a dollar, I don't need a lead. 5:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, now Shane, just because of that, if anyone ever says they need a hot tub, you can say, I know what that is. 5:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But there was a guy who came in to buy chemicals. 5:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So the guy walked in and when I was talking to the sales dude and he looked so he goes, Guy, are you looking for chemicals? 5:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That man was like, yeah, and he said, I have the wall help yourself. 5:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's another guy that walked in and he said, Guy. 5:57 [SPEAKER_01]: looking for chemicals behind the wall and I thought it's guys like a drug dealer mafia man like you're looking for chemicals guy guy but that's how I'm going to address everyone guy he really called them guy yeah guys he's just had a certain accent you know like maybe Bronx or something I don't know I know what that is 6:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Man. 6:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Adorel. 6:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Old woman. 6:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Did we want a piece of cake? 6:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I always want a piece of cake. 6:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I met Kim today for lunch, Josh. 6:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We met a pandemic. 6:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, 6:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Because Panda and Marian is right by the Calisters. 6:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm always like, you know, that's what we do. 6:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But Kim will go. 6:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I was afraid I'd have PTSD from the last time I was there. 7:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I really love the Calisters. 7:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I get their grilled cheese toastie with bacon added twice. 7:08 [SPEAKER_02]: double bacon yeah oh my god well if you just get one like one order of it it's like two thin little strips so it's not that proportionate to the bread did you make these for us kids I did I worked real hard on these I might have bought them at Walmart Walmart you just told me you were going to the pet store that's what she called after they did no I thought that you 7:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that's what she calls Master Baby James. 7:38 [SPEAKER_02]: She's going to the pet store. 7:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's the wrong one. 7:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait. 7:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you drop them on me and my mouth. 7:49 [SPEAKER_02]: How cute. 7:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you are they, are they freedom flavored? 7:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're like yellow cake. 7:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever had a Dutch Josh? 7:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It smells like strawberry. 7:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Dutch brothers. 7:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Come here. 8:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 8:00 [SPEAKER_01]: There's one, Mary, and we have that today. 8:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh. 8:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you a Dutch brothers or a Southern bro? 8:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm a dunk in donuts, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't hate myself, that much. 8:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I was telling Kim, okay, that's good. 8:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I was telling him that Dutch reminds me of when you meet a girl and you feel like she's might be the one and you're going to bring her home to grandma, you know, that's what Dutch is for me. 8:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Seventh brew is a whole different thing. 8:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just a DTF. 8:42 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's just a little too, I don't like that drive through part of it. 8:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Seventh brew? 8:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very dry. 8:54 [SPEAKER_02]: The new location to the ordering is too far and I am a wait to like it there last minute, type of order, so I don't like being like, oh, no, I don't know yet, but I still have to pull and everyone's outside. 9:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and everyone wants a tip. 9:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for them to have to, the seven brew people, especially being in the winner. 9:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the winner, when it's super cold out, and during the summer, when it's really, really hot. 9:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why they just don't get them in one day. 9:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 9:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know either. 9:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if you don't like working there, you can quit. 9:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, unfortunately, this thing is so good. 9:35 [SPEAKER_01]: There's good. 9:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to have another one. 9:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Moist. 9:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Which movie here can maybe you'll give you one? 9:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I bought a beer too. 9:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to be from boards. 9:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 9:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Earlier this week, it's a Wednesday. 9:50 [SPEAKER_00]: No, today's Wednesday. 9:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, early this week. 9:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's over the weekend, I don't remember. 9:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I want Cinderella. 9:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It was Sunday, what, knit? 9:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe you. 9:59 [SPEAKER_01]: It was so cute. 9:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was Sunday. 10:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I thought it was an odd day for to go to beef them boards. 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It was in the afternoon. 10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 10:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 10:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It was. 10:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those are really good. 10:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I like this a lot. 10:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make a jello cake for you. 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I like that you put in the fridge for a minute. 10:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, of course. 10:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm making a jello cake for the 4th of July, so I'm so excited. 10:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't had a jello cake in so long. 10:26 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what those remind me of. 10:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have a quick story for you before we get into our mystery today. 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Give me one another one. 10:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I went and visited a couple of my friends downtown. 10:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 10:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Diane and Brooke, they work at that little Arnold's, you wish to, and downtown. 10:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Our Arnold's shoulder store, where's that at? 10:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Where the bridal shop used to be, right next to Bella's old. 10:55 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened to the bridal shop? 10:56 [SPEAKER_01]: When at a business. 10:57 [SPEAKER_01]: They moved to a new location out in Roenow. 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay. 11:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. 11:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But two really good people love them to death, right? 11:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Go and visit them all the time. 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I always go in there and we always talk true crime. 11:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a couch in there. 11:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We want we all listen and watch two crime stuff. 11:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But I went to the back to use bathroom. 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great place to go to the bathroom, clean. 11:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And as I walked to the back, they have a little desk back there. 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw like Doritos, which was like a really cool looking Dorito bag. 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna have that version of Doritos. 11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But then they had fried chicken, right next to that. 11:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And next to that was sour cream. 11:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, what was odd? 11:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what are they using the store? 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And I walked down and I was like, who's food is back there? 11:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And Diane's like, oh, that's mine. 11:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's a little older. 11:54 [SPEAKER_01]: She's probably at Kim's age. 11:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you can't be pregnant. 12:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, no, I'm not pregnant. 12:03 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, one of my medicine wasn't in, so I don't have it. 12:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm craving weird things. 12:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm God. 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, why is there like chicken without the skin? 12:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, I bought it because I only wanted the skin. 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, yeah, she was dipping that the chicken skin into our cream and then the Doritos she was dipping into I want to say it was like not Joe cheese or something girl dinner. 12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was like she's like you can have whatever you want. 12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Go get you something else like 12:39 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know. 12:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you on fried chicken. 12:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's because she doesn't care for chicken. 12:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't do the bone. 12:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He won't eat anything on the bone. 12:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So funny. 12:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But the second story deals with Diane. 12:53 [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of Diane, a little bit of Diane, a little baby. 12:58 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, Shane, have you ever had this happen to you? 13:01 [SPEAKER_01]: She shows me a video of Amazon coming to her house. 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: She lives in the country like like I do. 13:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And you see the delivery man go to the, like, the back door area. 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then you see the delivery man on a different camera in an unmarked van, first of all, I hate that Amazon, if you're listening. 13:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 13:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Bezos. 13:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Get a magnet. 13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 13:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 13:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Get something. 13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: These unmarked vehicles. 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I have no problem with them using like a third party or whatever. 13:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a little. 13:35 [SPEAKER_00]: That put a damn magnet. 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah. 13:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like someone ordered an Uber and this plain car comes up with no sign. 13:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no sign in it. 13:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Every once in a while, everyone's a while. 13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll have stuff delivered by somebody on a car. 13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, who the hell is that? 13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always like my great vehicle. 13:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 13:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But this was like a damn ban. 13:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like a panel of looking ban. 13:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Not like a stalker of an. 13:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like a dirty man if that makes sense. 14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a little rusted. 14:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, you see the van go into her grass in the front yard, go by the doors, the windows, and turns around in the grass, no reason at all. 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a turnaround in her driveway and just go and real slow. 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: What a chair. 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I feel like he's casing it out. 14:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, if you didn't know that he was Amazon, would you have shot him? 14:29 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, oh, 100%. 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: If I was home, I saw him boo. 14:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you're trying to break in my house or something. 14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I would call Amazon and tell them like that delivery person needs to be talked to. 14:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. 14:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's how she did. 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It took her a long time to find a phone number that you can call her. 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But she ends up calling them and they're like, man, we are a town star. 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I will give you $20. 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: She's telling me that's not, I was like, 14:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I would have yelled at her on the foward. 14:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the house is not worth it. 14:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not worth it. 14:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not worth it. 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: For an hour. 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the up to 20, and I was like, I can't be bought. 15:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, what? 15:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is still that you ordered something from the company. 15:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Problem one, you had someone deliver it. 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: A third party. 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, whatever. 15:18 [SPEAKER_01]: but they were in an unmarked vehicle. 15:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not gonna fly away with people, but then the person for no apparent reason turns around in the grass and not just turn, let's not likely back then and then pull it out, drive all, like, all forward you guys this video. 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy. 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it on Patreon too. 15:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 15:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, if I saw that person, do that at my house, we would get to a fight. 15:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is like when you live in the country like I do and what how she does you don't know where things are buried Not bodies because that's the Amazon right, but like you don't know where my water well is you don't know where my 16:01 [SPEAKER_02]: other things. 16:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the things that people bury. 16:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 16:04 [SPEAKER_00]: My siblings, yeah, my idiot neighbor, you know, his yards go together behind my property. 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, my septic tank is back there. 16:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And the lines go down to the shit Creek. 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, because I don't have a 16:24 [SPEAKER_00]: A septic whatever I just have a septic tank and it all drains the water and stuff drains out into the a creek and I just love a fair. 16:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Every time I see that idiot he'll drive back there. 16:39 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no. 16:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just yard. 16:42 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no driveway or anything back there. 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Every time he drives over it, I keep thinking, you idiot, you'll screw up my lines. 16:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I won't be screwed because I'm going to have to put a leach bed in. 16:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm going to really be screwed because I don't have enough land to put a leach bed in. 16:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit in there, poor. 16:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, shit. 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he's an idiot. 17:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So Ken, what is your mystery today? 17:05 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's your turn. 17:09 [SPEAKER_01]: literally hurt my middle finger. 17:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dummy, yeah, it's your mystery today. 17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not my mystery. 17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's supposed to be Kim's. 17:17 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just a slacker. 17:20 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was him. 17:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So I challenge Kim. 17:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I told her that I really want to talk with this documentary because I was talking about it. 17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, to, to Brook and dying. 17:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, can watch this so we can talk about it. 17:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought you meant that you were going to watch it. 17:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And now I was going to do like we did the last time and just be the. 17:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I did watch it. 17:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 17:44 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 17:44 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you want to do? 17:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you watched it? 17:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh, like, I don't know why I don't even know what you're talking about. 17:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have it. 17:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's on Netflix. 17:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And when I first saw it, come up, I'm like, I'll play it in the background, quickly. 18:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Could I not play it in the background? 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I had to sit down and watch it. 18:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I love those. 18:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So are you like, who hang on, what's this? 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So it all starts out with this lady. 18:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And you quickly like, hear her start talking, you're like, oh, she's an England. 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: She's English, my name is Melon of Windy. 18:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So it happens in England. 18:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, what even was it? 18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, well, it was in Blasco, Glasgow, Glasgow, Glasgow. 18:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one of those. 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And then that farm was in Ireland. 18:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So the woman's name is Caroline Murhead. 18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's a forensic pathologist based in Glasgow. 18:49 [SPEAKER_02]: seven or prime. 18:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but she just came out of a relationship of a nearly a decade. 18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she starts getting on, you know, tend her these dating sides looking for something new new flying. 19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do a girl. 19:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't do a lot. 19:03 [SPEAKER_01]: She's swiping left, swiping right. 19:06 [SPEAKER_01]: She sees this man. 19:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And he looks. 19:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I love how she described it. 19:09 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, he was just like, 19:12 [SPEAKER_01]: farm man like he was just like nothing wrong in corn fed they can all the right this is a big old cod piece in his name was how it's ander mackeller but the people were calm seeing andy yep 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just, she messed with him on Tinder. 19:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that just, I couldn't. 19:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't call someone saying a day. 19:32 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some men's names or I'm like, no, I couldn't moan that out. 19:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Sandy, how you do things to me, no, oh, Sandy. 19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would think of, I would think of Greece. 19:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Greece, yeah. 19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 19:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So in October of 2020, we all remember at the time. 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: She drove up to the Scottish Highlands for their first date. 19:55 [SPEAKER_01]: and he ended up proposing just a few months later. 19:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the documentary is starts telling this story primarily from her point of view. 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So like the whole thing is like she's talking and telling it to you mostly, but it does include interviews with not just Tarbah, her friends, her family, lawyers, investigators, all who worked on the case. 20:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're mom and dad. 20:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And they also include previously unreleased or unseen footage because I guess a lot of people will probably knew about this case in England. 20:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So they started releasing a lot of things like that she would record or like using on Snapchat. 20:35 [SPEAKER_02]: So like real life stuff. 20:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she was a big snap chatter. 20:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It looked like her life since this all happened. 20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It's clearly been rocky because of what 20:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Now Alexander, Sandy McKellar, and his twin brother Robert, both work together on this really big estate, like a lot of laying under state. 21:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was called a US-AU-C-H-Auch, maybe? 21:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that's right. 21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a highland sporting estate near Bridge of Orchee. 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Now the coverage during this whole thing starts describing Sandy's role as he was a farmhand, a gamekeeper, and he also would hunt deer and then go on these hunting expeditions on this biggest state. 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: His brother Robert's role was described the same way they both seemed like they had the same job, but they were talked about him a lot less. 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact later in the documentary 21:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, where did his brother come from? 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I just- Oh, you didn't even realize that he was- No, I was like, paying attention so much to the, like, the relationship. 21:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I guess I forgot like who was Robert was. 21:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Until they started talking about him more. 21:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Both men were 25 when the crime that I'm about tell you happened, which was in 2017. 22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But when this story is being told in 2020, I think they were about 31. 22:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So Tony Parsons is the victim. 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He was 63, a retired Royal Navy officer living, I would pronounce it, but I literally cannot. 22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Clackman Shire. 22:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He was living in Clarkmanshire, and he was a cancer survivor. 22:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm in Chad. 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 22:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So, before I tell you this, I kind of have to like, set the scene. 22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So, then Kim, you can help me out here because you've watched it twice, everyone's seen it once. 22:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But she, you know, is going back and forth with this guy, she meets him on Tinder, and she's a forensic pathologist, right, which if you don't know what that is. 22:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Google it. 22:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she does. 22:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But she would process that body. 22:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right. 22:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and it was like a long commute to get to where he was. 22:58 [SPEAKER_00]: That was like an hour and a half. 23:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I. 23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: If not longer. 23:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So two hours. 23:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it was two. 23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So they end like their relationship moves fast. 23:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Like she's like, oh, I was in love. 23:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He was in love. 23:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We were talking about getting married at it. 23:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Kim, won't you tell me how he brings up this crime? 23:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he tells her one day he says, now, if we're going to get married, I really need to tell you something first. 23:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's always great. 23:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 23:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And they were. 23:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm super rich, secretly. 23:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to know. 23:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 23:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And they were out on the estate, you know, doing different things out on the state when he decides that he needs to tell her this. 23:42 [SPEAKER_00]: and alone, out of the state. 23:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, yeah, okay, you know, thinking that it's not going to be anything bad or anything. 23:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So he proceeds to tell her that one night, him and his brother was out drinking. 23:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They were on their way home and they accidentally hit a guy on a bike and it killed him. 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And they panicked. 24:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So they decided that they were going to bury him. 24:12 [SPEAKER_02]: They came back and haunted them. 24:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So after that, she was starting to get. 24:20 [SPEAKER_00]: She was like, okay, you know, it was an accident. 24:23 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't really mean to do it and this and that and the other. 24:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And so you go a little farther and a little bit farther. 24:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And he starts giving a little bit more information and a little bit more information. 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, come to find out that. 24:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So when they hit him, they were going to go back to get a truck because they weren't a car. 24:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They were going to go get a truck to come and get his body and go and bury him. 24:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, when they left, the man was still alive. 24:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, crap. 24:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he was when they got back. 24:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He said that he was just barely barely hanging on. 24:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So then she starts talking about this in more detail. 25:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So dates kind of matter here. 25:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So October 2020 is when they meet. 25:10 [SPEAKER_01]: One month later, November 2020, 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: they're out in the field by where were the those little birdies that you shoot, you know, like clay pigeons. 25:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He's out there and that's when he confesses this to where it says that the body's buried near. 25:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great. 25:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Why's got a gun? 25:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 25:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's one month after they meet. 25:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 25:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're already talking about marriage and he's confessing this to her. 25:32 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 25:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, red flag. 25:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And can you can you might remember this more in more detail, but one thing that I remember is like this is a one month after they met mind you But he's confessing this to her because weren't they going to sell some of the property or something and it was supposed to be developed. 25:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I think yeah, it was going to be developed So he was worried that they're going to take this body back up 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's like, can you help me with the body? 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and why are Jesus like, you know, do a way with it. 26:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, how can I get rid of it? 26:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she's like, well, and like, all his ideas, she was like, well, you can't do that. 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Jesus, a friend's a pathologist, she knows how to get rid of a body. 26:13 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, no, you can't do that because this reason that reason. 26:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And then she quickly as a starts wandering, if she's like, we just met a month ago. 26:20 [SPEAKER_01]: On my tender profile, it sent out as a forensic pathologist, was he targeting me? 26:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he knew I could help him and like, after I help him really just kill me, you know? 26:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was very worried about it. 26:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, if you kill someone, bury their body, you don't want people to know. 26:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The more people that know, the more she's going to get it. 26:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Especially someone you've known a month. 26:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 26:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So she starts thinking the worse. 26:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, she just learned about it in November. 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So it takes a little more than a month before she gets the urge to report it. 26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And over that month, she starts recording conversations. 27:01 [SPEAKER_01]: trying to get information because she goes to her parents, but she realizes that like when she goes to the police, she doesn't know exactly where the body is. 27:11 [SPEAKER_01]: She just knows that that area, that the body was supposed to be and she didn't know that exactly where it was. 27:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So like in one of the instances, 27:20 [SPEAKER_01]: she has him go to the pigeon thing and like shoot and then all of a sudden she's like so where exactly did you bury this body if you want my help I need to know what exactly where it's at yeah so he takes her to where it's at and then she's like when she gets there she's like oh shoot like there's nothing around it there was no kind of a plan or anything like 27:45 [SPEAKER_00]: other than, you know, it was on a hill. 27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just looked like a lot of there. 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So they start walking away to go back to the field, and she's like, I need something to be able to, like, remember how to get back to it. 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So she did up throwing her can. 27:58 [SPEAKER_01]: She was drinking energy. 27:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So is it over her head to where they were? 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: and she looks at him and she's like, I don't know why I just did that. 28:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And then so she turned around and went to go get it and he kept walking to the vehicle. 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So she turns around after she gets to it. 28:12 [SPEAKER_01]: She sees that he's not looking and she just stomps her to the ground to make it flat. 28:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So you can't see that it's still there. 28:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So then she gets back to the vehicle and he doesn't notice any of that. 28:22 [SPEAKER_01]: She goes to the police again and tells them, okay, so this is what I did. 28:26 [SPEAKER_01]: This is 28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was about a month later, he tells her when the police go to him and his brother and arrest him. 28:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So they go arrest him, question them, and they're like, they deny everything. 28:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know, we don't know anything. 28:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Now she didn't know, didn't she know when she went to the police, the person's name? 28:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I remember her saying it. 28:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think she did. 28:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he had told them that it was a guy on a bike so when she went back, 28:57 [SPEAKER_00]: and she'd Google to see, you know, if somebody had been missing, so that's how she found out the guys name. 29:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, there was this whole thing like they end up arresting them, but they released them the next day. 29:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And they hadn't yet gone and like looked and pulled up the body. 29:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Like in England, 29:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Things kind of moves slow. 29:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Like for you to get yeah for you to be able to get proper ball cause to get a f like I don't have to do it but to get a search warrant just takes a while. 29:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So they release them the next day because they don't have enough evidence to hold them at that point. 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So she's like telling, you know, well, so I'm sitting there and I realize they've been released and then all of a sudden she gets a text message from one of their buddies and was like, hey, they're over here at my house in case you were, you know, wondering, and she's like, I honestly didn't know what to do. 29:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I've it now endangered myself and my parent he knows when we all live and if he doesn't yet know that I'm the one who was the informant, maybe I'll just go along with it until they arrest them after they find the body. 30:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me take in that risk. 30:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So she responds to the guy and she's like, oh my gosh, I've been so worried. 30:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Let him know that I'm so happy that he's safe, you know, like what's going on? 30:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So then he calls and it's like, can we come to your house and so they come over and so she starts like playing girlfriend like I have no idea how they would have found out you know and they assume that like the brother was drunk one day and like told someone they have no idea that it's her and in the meantime she's like recording stuff but it was I don't know it's just so bizarre because she also is like 30:50 [SPEAKER_01]: here I was very scared like if they find out I've now endangered myself my parents and she tried to get the police to like offer protection or something but they wouldn't do it because they didn't see that it was a big deal or something you know so that was her only like she just thought that was the best option like she thought it would move fast they'll find the body or rest them and she's you know in the 31:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So that lasted for one additional month until they find the body. 31:21 [SPEAKER_01]: They find the body when he gets to the person. 31:24 [SPEAKER_00]: At first, he didn't have any place else he could go. 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: He could go back to the farm or whatever. 31:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So he actually moves in with her for a while. 31:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 31:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's not until July of 2023 when they end up pleading guilty. 31:43 [SPEAKER_01]: to homicide, you know, I mean, so I don't know all those things, but what's crazy to me is that in the documentary, 31:53 [SPEAKER_01]: like there was an attorney and investigators and they all just could not see like how she could have gone along with it. 32:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So like there was one point time with a detective show up at her house and they realized that he's staying there and they were worried about while they were worried about her. 32:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So they wanted to make sure she was okay. 32:17 [SPEAKER_00]: and then when they went there they realized that he was there too. 32:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So they make up some sort of crap, you know, to try to throw him off to where, you know, she's not the informant, but eventually he does find out that she was the one that left that can there. 32:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And what's really stupid is, after he found that out, I mean, he didn't act like he was ever going to hurt her, but he just he told her how disappointed he was. 32:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't believe that she double crossed him like that in that kind of stuff. 32:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was living with her at the time, and 32:55 [SPEAKER_00]: they kind of forgave each other and was still kind of together after he even found out that she this is so messy for three in the long relationship. 33:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And so after 33:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They kind of get back together. 33:09 [SPEAKER_00]: They start doing all kinds of drugs, cocaine, and it all kinds of drugs, drinking. 33:17 [SPEAKER_00]: She was a flat out mess, is what she was. 33:20 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really crazy. 33:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe, the first time I watched it, and I'm like, oh, he's going to really hurt her, for doing that. 33:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he's like, oh, I'm sorry. 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, oh, I'm sorry. 33:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh my God, what the hell is she doing? 33:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's messed up. 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's real messed up. 33:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think like, so what's your guys' opinion? 33:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that he saw her out? 33:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Because she was a forensic pedologist? 33:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Just a man. 33:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so. 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that bright. 33:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I probably didn't even know what it was. 33:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So at the end of it, after he wasn't going to plead guilty, they weren't going to plead guilty. 33:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They were going to do the trial and at the end of it, he decides he's going to plead guilty. 34:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he does a letter to the court or whatever. 34:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was because of their relationship while he decided that he was going to go ahead. 34:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And because he didn't want to put her through having to testify against him. 34:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So he went ahead and pled guilty. 34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So they arrested her. 34:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was arrested for a while because she was supposed to go testify and she didn't show up. 34:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So she fled basically. 34:26 [SPEAKER_00]: She was trying to find the bicycle that they had gotten rid of that the guy was writing. 34:30 [SPEAKER_00]: She couldn't find it. 34:31 [SPEAKER_00]: They ended up finding her and putting her in jail. 34:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then when she was supposed to go and testify against him, they came in and they let her go because he said, told him that he was guilty. 34:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Who couldn't be me? 34:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 34:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Couldn't be me. 34:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 34:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy. 34:47 [SPEAKER_01]: When I first started watching it and like the detectives and stuff were getting mad or her, I was like, well, you guys put her in that position. 34:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right. 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: She should, I understand it's not when it's protection at that point, but there should have been some type of protection. 35:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if your witness had a relationship with someone and then they flipped, like you need to protect them. 35:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That really made me mad first of all. 35:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when she went back with him after he got rematter her after he found out, I'm like, okay, now girl, he must be a hunna like a horse or something like what is going on here. 35:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that he did seek out someone who would know how to get rid of a body. 35:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 35:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: What are the chances? 35:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like though, if he, if that's the what it was. 35:40 [SPEAKER_01]: One month later. 35:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he, he, like, he knew that they were looking at developing the property when he gets on the tender to find someone. 35:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I feel like if he did that, that he would have just won a head with the trial and he wouldn't have, he would have made her take basically justified against him. 35:58 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem. 35:59 [SPEAKER_01]: In all honesty, I think that he knew that he would be put away for a very long time. 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And if he goes ahead and, you know, he's like, well, he pled to a lesser chart. 36:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm doing it again. 36:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, see, uh, 20 years? 36:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like that. 36:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, 20 years. 36:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You won't get long for stuff like that. 36:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I just like it's so easy for him to say I'm going to plead. 36:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So she doesn't have to I mean, he could have Because he could have intentionally. 36:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he could have intentionally done it in the beginning, but that he didn't realize he was going to fall for it, too Yeah, but you know that the I'm just like, I don't know 36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe that it was a coincidence. 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so messy. 36:44 [SPEAKER_01]: One month later, though, it's just so messy. 36:48 [SPEAKER_02]: See, that's why I think maybe he didn't know what she did, because I mean, if I did know, I would have waited longer than a month. 36:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but the, I guess what I can get by is if I'm on Tinder and I see a forensic pathologist and I know I've murdered someone, I would keep swiping. 37:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, because if anyone can figure out, oh, we're out here in this mouse. 37:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Or we know who to tell. 37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, so I think that he's trying to find someone, it may be like, we don't know who else he talked to, how many crimes and investigators he racked up in the sack. 37:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it could have even been like a subconscious thing. 37:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It was maybe as the eat them up and he saw it as an opportunity to 37:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe. 37:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. 37:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good theory, but he didn't strike me as someone who had a lot of deep. 37:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you really think that I think he would have snapped the moment they start crushing him in jail? 37:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you really think that they were trying to develop it? 37:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Develop what? 37:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That where the body was at? 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean? 37:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, develop the land. 37:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, develop the land. 37:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like they were developing the land. 37:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was just his conscience because why would they develop something that's out in the middle of 38:03 [SPEAKER_00]: middle of nowhere that has doesn't have anything. 38:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Why would they do that? 38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you like to go to a resort in the middle of nowhere? 38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's beautiful. 38:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It was beautiful out there. 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was. 38:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It was in the middle of nowhere. 38:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't his. 38:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he just worked there. 38:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 38:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But he said like in there was an I didn't hear anything to defeat it that the they were selling off a part of the property for development. 38:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean they're going to build 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Hilton Hotel, you know, they could just build a little Airbnb for I know, but his worry about, you know, they're going to move the land like they're going to find a body and people will know what happened. 38:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if it could have been like a park to maybe they just adopted the park. 38:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Something. 38:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know. 38:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just thinking if I got rid of a body and I'm also stressed out that they're going to find it. 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: the last thing I'm going to do is I'm going to start dating someone who could solve this crime right like that doesn't make sense to me like being a sex addict trying to get over his addiction and dating a porn star yeah exactly doesn't make any sense so I think that he was looking for someone who he could manipulate a little bit 39:16 [SPEAKER_01]: and then get get some help into it. 39:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't make sense to me. 39:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not makes sense. 39:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, she pretty much did all the work for him. 39:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Josh, you're on some, you probably do grind or stuff. 39:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can't mind that you've done dating sites too. 39:29 [SPEAKER_01]: How many forensic pathologists have you come across? 39:32 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't put that shit on there, honey. 39:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's true. 39:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they do for 11. 39:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true, but on like tinder and stuff like how like I was never on tinder. 39:42 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that I was on was plenty of fish. 39:45 [SPEAKER_00]: No, e-harmonie, I think I did. 39:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you getting on sugar daddy? 39:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we should. 39:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Farmer's on me. 39:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was what's her name for more. 39:56 [SPEAKER_00]: She's the one. 39:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 39:57 [SPEAKER_02]: She's the one that got on the sugar daddy. 39:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Farmer's on me. 39:59 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go. 40:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Local half or needs a steer. 40:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure mine was e-harmonies, but you can't tell me that for a month. 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I just I don't believe it I don't believe that he just randomly matches with this girl. 40:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, nobody that I talked to was even real 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I talked to like two or three guys and none of them were real after five hundred dollars. 40:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the point of our staff and me and you can't believe the country. 40:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I would talk to them long enough to get enough information out of them. 40:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd say Shane, check this out. 40:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Usually the longer you talk to them, the less interest you get. 40:30 [SPEAKER_02]: That's true. 40:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, not one of them were was a real person, but that was Josh, you got to watch it because after you watch it, you're on a half. 40:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Talk to you on watch where you talk to them. 40:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 40:43 [SPEAKER_00]: that's what three episodes. 40:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I thought. 40:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, since it went out, Caroline says that she is sober, she relocated and she's in a new relationship. 40:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so she was, you could tell at the end of it. 41:00 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, okay, that's it. 41:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 41:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, okay, now I can get up. 41:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that was good. 41:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The guy Alexander, he's serving his 12-year sentence. 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've got her as a 20. 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: 12-year sentence. 41:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He is eligible for parole, late next year, mid-late, 20, 27. 41:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. 41:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 41:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The brother Robert is serving five-year, three-month sentence. 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't find any release data on when he might get out. 41:36 [SPEAKER_00]: What do I, why did he not get as much time as the other way? 41:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking it was because he wasn't driving. 41:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not the one that hit him. 41:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So he probably just got charged as it is. 41:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that makes sense. 41:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 41:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense. 41:50 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't put that in there. 41:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Did they? 41:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember. 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember. 41:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Tony Parsons' family after the sentencing in 2023 asked for privacy, so they're not in the documentary. 42:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not at all. 42:03 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not at all. 42:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, it's just a crazy thing, Josh, you have to watch it because it's just crazy. 42:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I did see that there is a whole different documentary called the vanishing cyclist, but 42:23 [SPEAKER_00]: What's it on? 42:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't write it down. 42:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I just searched. 42:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like did the search thing. 42:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to write that down. 42:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I want to know, I want to watch that. 42:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But I feel like there's a look like from what I saw that there might be even more information in it because it's not being told from, you know, the fiance of murderer. 42:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's less about the life of the people who did it and more about the crime and those type of things. 42:53 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm interested. 42:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 42:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, after you watch it, you'll have to tell me what you thought. 42:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Josh, I want to hear from you too. 42:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you end up watching it. 43:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, because I need to watch it again so that I can like really decide, like do I think that there was any other option, like that he just randomly found her. 43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But also in the little snippet videos, if I didn't know that she was our forensic pathologist, I wouldn't have thought it because she is like young and energetic. 43:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And boy, she drinks all her energy drinks. 43:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It kind of reminded me of my ass from all the way. 43:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, she's always drinking energy drinks. 43:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Girls get some sleep. 43:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And it just amazed me that she got so hooked into the alcohol and the drugs part being what she, you know, the profession that she was in. 43:43 [SPEAKER_01]: A doctor. 43:44 [SPEAKER_00]: You would think that she was, she had a doctor. 43:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And you think that she would know better. 43:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, I mean, when you go through, I mean, I would call that trauma. 43:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, you're definitely going to tell you. 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it was hard for talk about some moments. 44:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So she's like, yeah, we really loved each other and I cared for him a lot. 44:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, he tells me, I accidentally did this horrible thing. 44:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know how to fix it. 44:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And so she's like, so I felt for him. 44:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I felt bad. 44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But then she realized, like, I can't help him cover that up. 44:17 [SPEAKER_02]: No, at least she, you know, had that about her. 44:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, did do the right thing, but it took a little bit. 44:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think, like, if the system wasn't as ship poor as it was, they would have done a better job at, like, protecting a witness, then I don't think she would have been thrown back into that situation. 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 44:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that she just rebounded in, like, this is my only option. 44:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Ain't no way in hell, I would've let him move in with my ass. 44:46 [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as his friend called me after they got a prison, I was like, hell, no, you know, I wouldn't have been like, it was me. 44:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd been like, oh, this is messy. 44:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want nothing to do with that. 44:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Lose my number. 44:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and how he found out that she was the informant was because when they were searching the grounds by where they found the body, 45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He was shocked first of all that they found it. 45:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're like, he's like, how did they have pinpointed it? 45:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then he had heard the great finder something. 45:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember how he actually found out. 45:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, someone told him that when they went to go search the property, the police had mentioned to someone on the property, that they were looking for a can that the informant told them that they smash and he was like, 45:31 [SPEAKER_02]: See, it's stupid mistakes like that, like that other documentary. 45:34 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a lady like the notion that he has him. 45:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, we can't be making these kinds of things. 45:40 [SPEAKER_01]: No, right. 45:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I think that in some way, like the police and the system was a part of what ends up happening, like I don't think the shoot have done any of that, if they would have just kept her safe and her family safe. 45:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lower. 45:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy. 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a crazy one. 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure. 45:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe he moved in right there. 45:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I find no. 46:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And then after he finds out they get back to the other. 46:02 [SPEAKER_01]: God, not great. 46:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when I was reading what Shane wanted to watch, I'm like, oh my God, I've already watched this. 46:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've been wanting to talk about it for a while. 46:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now I need to watch her again. 46:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Josh, if people want to mail us packages, 46:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're limited to the testing time. 46:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Where do they mail packages to? 46:20 [SPEAKER_02]: They can mail packages to peelbox 690 while I shendiano for 6992. 46:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 46:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And we love what kind of packages do we like? 46:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We really like snackies. 46:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 46:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We like big juicy. 46:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They are called snackies. 46:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Mackies. 46:35 [SPEAKER_01]: be like snags and we love postcards, lots of postcards on our walls. 46:40 [SPEAKER_01]: We just love any type of thing. 46:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And it just tickles me to pieces when our little post office lady calls me and she's like, Shane, we got a package in here. 46:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You better pick it up. 46:49 [SPEAKER_01]: We go and send it to the future. 46:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I remind you, I need to give you the key back because I was full on that day. 46:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you just keep it that way when you come back, you can just keep checking it. 46:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I won't, because I'll forget. 47:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So you and Josh got keys. 47:03 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was up. 47:05 [SPEAKER_00]: No, at least that's what I can say. 47:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Some are priced in a bit of a box of gross garbage. 47:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're up to. 47:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're up to. 47:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I have them in the car, ain't nobody getting them, but me. 47:14 [SPEAKER_01]: In a big, her friends don't fall off. 47:17 [SPEAKER_01]: She ain't getting up these bonkers. 47:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Stay up. 47:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So she ain't going on. 47:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on. 47:21 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 47:22 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys. 47:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you for joining us and we are gonna catch you right here right next week It comes to a God I'm to mean the day and if not our bunker just got more haunted and more All right, see you guys later. 47:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Bye
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