0:04 [SPEAKER_00]: There's not much in life you can understand without context. 0:08 [SPEAKER_00]: When it comes to the systematic destruction of our planet, during the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries, the context is this. 0:17 [SPEAKER_00]: For the first 300 years of human history, nature has former Lake Coach Pat Riley put it. 0:23 [SPEAKER_00]: They keep their ass. 0:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Nature had us in a chokehold from the first cave to the first cafe with famine, disease, natural disasters, and the occasional haymaker of a plague, bubonic, choleric, or otherwise. 0:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Even today, nature is capable of unfathomable destruction. 0:44 [SPEAKER_00]: hurricanes and earthquakes take a devastating toll and diseases like cancer and COVID in lives and ruin our economies, but in many respects the script has flipped. 0:56 [SPEAKER_00]: In the last 200 years we industrialized, sterilized, and geneticized, we went nuclear. 1:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Nature spent so many millennia hurting us that it took a moment for us to realize that we could hurt it too. 1:11 [SPEAKER_00]: We were so focused 1:14 [SPEAKER_00]: that it never occurred to us to focus on nature's survival. 1:19 [SPEAKER_00]: A helpful parallel might be the way that my four-year-old cousin likes to charge me with his arms flailing like a little ball of hate. 1:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny now, but if he's still doing that when he's 20, I have a problem. 1:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Nature was the invincible empire, today it's at our mercy, and most of the time it receives little. 1:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The power dynamic shifted in the 19th and 20th centuries, and virtually no one noticed. 1:52 [SPEAKER_00]: This series is part about the people who did, the great conservationists like Teddy Roosevelt and Jimmy Carter, who campaigned for protection and preservation, and changed the American landscape. 2:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It's also a reminder that America does good things too. 2:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we invented Napon. 2:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The 24-hour news cycle and subprime mortgages. 2:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We also invented the National Park. 2:19 [SPEAKER_00]: In the conservationist, J. Horace McFarland once noted, the National Parks are an American idea. 2:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It is one thing we have that has not been imported. 2:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Any time you mention this fact, someone inevitably brings up the example of Bon Cong Mountain, the 18th century Asian nature preserve, as proof that Mick Farland was wrong. 2:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Founded in 1783, Bought Khan is a sacred mountain in North Eastern Mongolia and the oldest legally protected natural area in the world. 2:54 [SPEAKER_00]: In the similarities with our national parks, pretty much and right there, this mountain was protected by the order of the Queen Dynasty, for royal and religious purposes. 3:05 [SPEAKER_00]: An eight-sided golden roof temple was erected on top of the mountain, 3:13 [SPEAKER_00]: cows and sheep were sacrificed. 3:16 [SPEAKER_00]: American national parks are secular recreational areas for the public to enjoy. 3:21 [SPEAKER_00]: These areas are not set aside for temples. 3:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They're set aside for you and me and for nature itself. 3:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Calling Bog Con a national park is like saying I'm a professional groundskeeper because I'm my own yard. 3:36 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like saying the first person to ever pull a wagon 3:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody is sacrificing cows in the midst of old faith form, and no president has more of a right to these parks than you do. 3:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about that. 3:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They belong to the people, their public parks, not religious or royal parks, and that's sort of the point. 4:00 [SPEAKER_02]: As FDR1 said, there is nothing so American as our national parks. 4:05 [SPEAKER_02]: The fundamental idea behind the parks is that the country belongs to the people. 4:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Barconne was intended for royal carriages. 4:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Our national parks are made for rusty beaters, filled with middle-class families, and kids asking. 4:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we there yet? 4:22 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 4:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we there yet? 4:23 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 4:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we there yet? 4:25 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 4:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we there yet? 4:26 [UNKNOWN]: No. 4:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Today most developed countries have a national park system of some kind after the American model. 4:34 [SPEAKER_00]: We should all take a moment to celebrate that, mostly because of how rare it is for our government to get something right. 4:41 [SPEAKER_00]: We can add the national park service to a short list of things like NASA, the interstate and choosing sides during World War II, where we did get something great. 4:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's give credit where credit is due. 4:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Today the NPS has expanded to include 63 different areas designated as national parks, in 30 states and two territories. 5:04 [SPEAKER_00]: The majority of these are out west, as most of the eastern half of America has already been ransacked by industrialists by the time the first park Yellowstone was established in 1872. 5:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Today more than three quarters of America's 63 national parks are west of the Mississippi, and there are 17 in Alaska and California alone. 5:27 [SPEAKER_00]: The most recent of these is the new River Gorge National Park, and preserve in West Virginia. 5:33 [SPEAKER_00]: The most famous among them is arguably the first among them to have ever been protected by federal law, Yosemite and California. 5:41 [SPEAKER_00]: On June 30, 1864, three years into the American Civil War, Abraham Lincoln signed the Eucimity Valley Grant Act, claiming the park for conservation. 5:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The first official park was Yellowstone, which I'll cover in the next episode, but this legislation by Lincoln was so important that the National Park website has said quote, 6:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Although Congress never enforced the restrictions imposed on California's acceptance of the grant, at least not until 1905, when the state seated the valley and the big trees back to the federal government, their presence indicates that Congress had acted with a national interest in mind. 6:27 [SPEAKER_00]: The consensus that national parks had to be permanent was also recognized as early as 1864. 6:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Although the park was trusted to the state of California, it was preserved on behalf of the United States from the Office of the President by federal mandate. 6:44 [SPEAKER_00]: In order to learn more about your semity, I reached out to a friend of ours who worked as a national park ranger for more than 30 years. 6:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Jim Burnett has written two books on his time in the park titled Hey Ranger, true tales of humor and misadventure from America's national parts, and Hey Ranger II, more true tales. 7:06 [SPEAKER_03]: The title of the book, Hey Ranger comes from three common expressions of fellow job owners. 7:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey Ranger, how are you doing? 7:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes, is Hey Ranger quick over here? 7:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes, it's, ah, high-ranger, really did expect to see you here. 7:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the background in the introduction for the title comes from. 7:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I think of our national parks as a kind of sacred space, I tend to think of the national park ranger as serving an almost priestly role. 7:33 [SPEAKER_00]: If places like Yosemite, or the Grand Canyon, are America's native temples, it's the job of the ranger to help people have meaningful, respectful encounters with the natural world. 7:44 [SPEAKER_00]: In my own experience, Rangers have been jovial, patient people, with a genuine love for the natural world. 7:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Jim checks all of those boxes. 7:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been featured on ESPN's Radios, the Outdoor Show, National Public Radios, talk of the nation, as well as many other radio outlets, and in print media, like the Saturday Evening Post, I'm grateful to have him here with us today. 8:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Having read his books and being aware of the many ways that trips can go wrong, I knew that staying informed and traveling responsibly would be at the front of his mind. 8:21 [SPEAKER_00]: You should be doing your research, he says. 8:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Write up to the moment you arrive at the park. 8:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's absolutely correct. 8:29 [SPEAKER_03]: This year really is a really great example of that. 8:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And I stress that even though I say go to the park website, there's a lot of great stuff online. 8:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you just have to be careful. 8:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't ever rely on one source information, especially if you're going to blogs and that kind of thing. 8:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you go to the park website, search for your similar national park and find it when this is nps.gov, 8:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason that's important is, you're looking for on the homepage link for alerts, E.L.A.R.D.S. 9:04 [SPEAKER_03]: and that's just what it is, you know, his up and there's a great example right now before you assume it about why that's so important. 9:11 [SPEAKER_03]: During 2022, if you're gonna visit your sanity between May 20th and September 30th, during the business hours say, you've gotta have a reservation or you can't get into the park. 9:24 [SPEAKER_03]: and that's not the way things were until just the last year or so. 9:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And so it would be tragic if things somebody had planned a big trip, to load the family up in the van, drove across the country, got to the gate and say, where is your ticket? 9:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I had a government well, sorry, sir. 9:39 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that's why I just really stress, be sure you know what the information is. 9:43 [SPEAKER_03]: You can, if you go to the park website, there's all the details about how that system works. 9:48 [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason, 9:50 [SPEAKER_03]: bottom of the park was just driven that was that you can only cram so many cars into your similar valley and have a place to park them. 9:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And it just gotten right there. 9:58 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just absolutely so overwhelmed that people were complaining that I didn't drive 2,000 miles come here and sit to traffic jam for hours. 10:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And so they're making an effort to try to manage that. 10:09 [SPEAKER_03]: They have calculated how many cars you can park in your similar valley and so they're trying to stay pretty close to that in terms of how many people they're letting in on a given per time. 10:19 [SPEAKER_03]: If you go to the park website, not only will you get that information, but it tells you here's how you get to permit. 10:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It also gives you some options for their exceptions. 10:28 [SPEAKER_03]: If you have a reservation for places to say in the park, you don't have to have a permit. 10:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a great regional system, it's Y-A-R-T-S. 10:38 [SPEAKER_03]: the Yosimity Area Regional Transportation System. 10:42 [SPEAKER_03]: They run high quality buses from a number of places outside the park. 10:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're on a yard's bus, you don't have to have a reservation. 10:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Because the whole purpose of the reservation is to limit the number of vehicles in the park with the advantage. 10:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So if coming into a bus, it's not an issue. 10:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's an example of ways that you can work around that. 11:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Just book you, tick it on in your art's bus or enough hand. 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's ways if you're determined to do it, but the key is to know we had a time. 11:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked about self-service in the park. 11:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I know I had issues, but I wasn't sure if that was just my carrier. 11:15 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great question and a lack of a lot of parks and it's not. 11:19 [SPEAKER_03]: And the park makes a big point, it's saying, please don't rely on the GPS and on the navigation app on your phone, because it's not going to be reliable in the park. 11:29 [SPEAKER_03]: The old Mac or printed Mac is just an indispensable tool. 11:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And another thing that she can do is really handy, you can ahead of time. 11:36 [SPEAKER_03]: If you go to the park website, you can find, for example, go same to a thing called the Yosimity Guide. 11:44 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great park brochure that you updated 11:49 [SPEAKER_03]: So it tells you all the programs and the hikes to be going on and you should hint for the hiking trails. 11:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's also got in there a map of the free shuttle bus system that operates there in your Cindy Valley. 12:04 [SPEAKER_03]: You can pull it up and have it right on your phone. 12:07 [SPEAKER_03]: They got a map in the valley right there on your phone. 12:09 [SPEAKER_03]: So I say the paper maps great, but you carry around your back pocket all day. 12:12 [SPEAKER_03]: It gets all crumpled up and you can't read it. 12:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So stick it on your phone or your tablet. 12:17 [SPEAKER_03]: You got that stuff out of hand. 12:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you've got it downloaded and saved on your phone or saved on your tablet, you don't have to worry about whether or not you've got it. 12:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I say all the signal or a GPS signal, another thing that's happy in this year or they keep doing the best they can to the part to try to deal with this great flow of traffic. 12:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And they're trying a different traffic pattern. 12:37 [SPEAKER_03]: And you'll simply value it times during the summer work. 12:39 [SPEAKER_03]: The flow won't be the way it was last winter. 12:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And so you got your GPS and it's going to tell you to get from point A to point B. 12:47 [SPEAKER_03]: You get there. 12:47 [SPEAKER_03]: You get there this year because the traffic flows different on the road. 12:51 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's why Yeah, go back to get a good information and stop by the visitor center grab a map grab the go similar to God. 12:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And that'll save you a lot of waste of time and frustration. 13:00 [SPEAKER_03]: The other comment about make we found in our last trip there when in the spring, when in April, and it was fantastic because it was busy, but it wasn't jammed. 13:09 [SPEAKER_03]: But even if it was busy, we found we stayed outside the park the first two nights. 13:15 [SPEAKER_03]: My tip is, since you get into your Simity Valley, find your pork and place and put your car there and don't move it again to your ready to leave and go back out in the evening, they've got this great free shuttle bus system. 13:27 [SPEAKER_03]: But you start moving your car around, trying to save yourself walking to two blocks to get some place, you know, waste your day, drive around, find a fan of a pork and place. 13:35 [SPEAKER_03]: So take advantage of that shuttle system. 13:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That's why it's there. 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a playful nickname. 13:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I've heard Rangers use for the areas in parks without cell service. 13:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked Jim to explain it. 13:45 [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at your, at the screen or your phone and you've got a little symbol of the top. 13:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's how strong your signal is. 13:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I say, oh, I got five bar and four bars. 13:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm good. 13:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's places that you'll see in those points we call on the prohibitions of no bars. 14:00 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that means that you're out of luck and don't rely on it. 14:03 [SPEAKER_03]: That just kind of became a fun. 14:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Those were become up with food to deal with the lack of a signal. 14:06 [SPEAKER_03]: So the prohibitions of them. 14:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's one other thing that in fact, I have just recently started looking at, there is a free national park sure is app. 14:14 [SPEAKER_03]: It's actually been out now for about a year and a half and it's still being developed, but it's getting better and better every day. 14:21 [SPEAKER_03]: You can get it for iOS or for Android. 14:24 [SPEAKER_03]: It's getting the Play Store or the Apple Store. 14:26 [SPEAKER_03]: You can pull up a lot of the information from Park website right on the app. 14:31 [SPEAKER_03]: If you want, you can download that information and save it on your phone. 14:34 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not required to be you can. 14:36 [SPEAKER_03]: So, again, for example, I'm going to your sanity. 14:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to have that stuff handy. 14:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Just dump it onto your phone, your tablet. 14:43 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have a cell similar to the matter. 14:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got that close of hand. 14:46 [SPEAKER_03]: So I've just started kind of looking at that myself, but it's one tool of many that you can use that might just help make your trip a little bit easier. 14:55 [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at the app or you look at your seem to got to where there's all kinds of suggestions and ideas and new travel sites, I won't begin to try to presume to tell people where's the best places to go or where's the you're doing your seem to be. 15:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly there's a lot of places other than the valley. 15:12 [SPEAKER_03]: hope if you're there during the summertime you get up and see some of the high-country for example. 15:16 [SPEAKER_03]: We did have a few spots that we particularly enjoyed and if somebody's going for the first time, maybe it would be useful for them. 15:24 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the tip I have will be that if you're not staying in the park, get there as early as you can in the morning before it starts to really get crowded, they're in the valley itself, most of the major development of the campgrounds and lodges 15:40 [SPEAKER_03]: East End, the Valley and the West End, it mainly just has this wonderful gorgeous big meadow with the Mercedes River running through the middle of it. 15:48 [SPEAKER_03]: And the road just makes a kind of loop around the outside. 15:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you just, there's all kinds of networks of trails so that that meadow and if you just walk out there, everybody is seeing these screen savers and calendar photos and postcards with these magnificent photos of Yosemite in, and that's for some of them we're taking from. 16:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Place called the Slinging Bridge, 16:07 [SPEAKER_03]: In signal bridge, cap 10, meta were three kind of landmarks there in that part of the valley take the free shuttle there stops near all those places you can get off and just have some magnificent views just soak in that scenery if you're a photographer we got a couple hanging on the wall right now we're going to last trip you just a great spot to do but again do it if you can't do it in the morning or late in the afternoon it's not so crowded if you have a chance. 16:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Not everybody can afford to stay in the park. 16:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's hard to get a reservation. 16:37 [SPEAKER_03]: We were lucky. 16:38 [SPEAKER_03]: We got one night there. 16:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And the advantage of that is we got a early head breakfast. 16:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Got out on a couple of the trails and we had it almost ourselves because we were there close and we didn't have to waste that hour to hours getting into the park from outside. 16:54 [SPEAKER_03]: So it is an option. 16:56 [SPEAKER_03]: At least, if it works for you, it was the one that we were there was really big bonus for us. 17:02 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I didn't love about your Simity was the traffic. 17:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm definitely using the shuttle the next time. 17:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like it would take away the stress of driving and parking, which might be even more of a challenge. 17:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I especially love the fact that you don't have to worry about booking special intervals on the shuttle throughout the day as it runs on a loop. 17:26 [SPEAKER_03]: But we've never waited more than, and they don't run all night. 17:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember the schedule, but it's like five a.m. to 10 p.m. or whatever. 17:33 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really a long schedule and they're during that main value if they've ran like every 10 minutes. 17:38 [SPEAKER_03]: They're a city bus size bus, but they're run frequently. 17:41 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, you might have to wait for a second bus on time if it's really crowded, but they're very convenient. 17:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's two different loops. 17:51 [SPEAKER_03]: One of them makes the whole kind of a figure eight through the entire valley through all the campgrounds and that will make it only just kind of the western part where it keeps the loop from here so long. 18:00 [SPEAKER_03]: But it takes you to trailheads and to picnic areas and to 18:05 [SPEAKER_03]: The Vista Center and modges and everything. 18:07 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a great way to get around. 18:08 [SPEAKER_03]: It's been running for a lot of years. 18:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they pretty well got the bugs worked out of that system. 18:12 [SPEAKER_03]: It seems to go pretty well. 18:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mentioned trail hats that you can get to. 18:18 [SPEAKER_03]: either by the shuttle or just walk and if you're staying there, a great hike is the place called mirror lake and it's about a two mile round trip, but it's easy, it's pay trail most of the way. 18:29 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're there in the spring or summer, you have this magnificent reflection of some of the big cliffs in this lake that looks like a mirror. 18:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And the kind of the joke is that if you it's a very shallow lake and if you go there late in the summer, the locals refer to it 18:44 [SPEAKER_03]: because basically the water all dries up you if you go in there and all we're trying to take a pitch reflection, you're going to miss out. 18:50 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a great high key to the way, but that's a great one to take especially in the spring. 18:54 [SPEAKER_03]: And the other one probably one of the more popular trails in the whole park for lower, you'll see many fall. 19:01 [SPEAKER_03]: but it's an absolutely fantastic spot to go. 19:04 [SPEAKER_03]: We were there again in April and it clocked them all in and we sold, maybe it doesn't people on the trail. 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just really incredible. 19:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And I might for when just a little bit of trivia so you can sound like an expert if people want to, if you sometimes people say, whether they made a typo on the brochure or the map, they called it, the logo of somebody fall, I thought it was a fall. 19:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I had a research to you, but card in expert, the Yosimity Falls Pearl is North America's high waterfalls, 2014, 25 feet high. 19:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really super, super impressive, but it's divided into three segments. 19:40 [SPEAKER_03]: There's Upper Yosimity Falls singular. 19:43 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a middle cascades. 19:46 [SPEAKER_03]: in lower your cemity fall singular, but the whole thing is called the cemity falls pearl. 19:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And the explanation is that if a waterfall has more drops, it's pearl falls. 19:57 [SPEAKER_03]: If it's a single drop, then technically it's a fall. 20:00 [SPEAKER_03]: We say, I'm going to go see the water fall. 20:02 [SPEAKER_03]: We don't sound going to see the water fall, so it's just one little. 20:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's water. 20:06 [SPEAKER_03]: So there you are. 20:06 [SPEAKER_03]: There's the insider. 20:07 [SPEAKER_03]: You can sell like an expert in spangling. 20:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not a misprint on the map. 20:11 [SPEAKER_03]: It is where you're submitting fall. 20:14 [SPEAKER_03]: But a great thing that we found on that which ever whatever you want to call it, if you walk up the and it's a paid handicapped accessible trail up to the base of the waterfalls, this is a lower 20:24 [SPEAKER_03]: 320 feet. 20:26 [SPEAKER_03]: The spectacular comes out and you can walk on the right to the base of it. 20:29 [SPEAKER_03]: In fact, when the water fall is really rural in there in the spring or other summer, if you're going to walk up close to the base, take your take at least a range to all. 20:38 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get sprayed and get wet. 20:40 [SPEAKER_03]: But we found there's a wooden bridge right below the base of the lower fall. 20:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You walk out in that bridge, at least when we were there in April, early morning, the sun angle 20:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Right there and the, all the mist coming up where the water just crashing down into the creek, it was just magnificent, but if we had not got a little bit wet, it walked out on the bridge, we would have missed it. 21:04 [SPEAKER_03]: And we saw several other groups that came up and they got to the bridge and so I don't want to get the absolute, they just turn home back to the parking lot. 21:10 [SPEAKER_03]: So finally as we were leaving, we found people coming up and we just said, hey, here's a little tip. 21:16 [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to see something really cool, go ahead and get a little damp walk out the middle of that bridge and it's really special. 21:21 [SPEAKER_00]: We can sometimes think of the national parks as places that don't really change because they're protected. 21:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But the appearance and experience of these places can change dramatically from one season to another. 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked if there were any major seasonal changes people should be aware of when planning a trip to Yosemite. 21:46 [SPEAKER_03]: or that come off his high cliffs and fall down into the on the four years soon, about a really spectacular and big draw for people. 21:54 [SPEAKER_03]: And so some folks are disappointed if they get their late in this season. 21:58 [SPEAKER_03]: It depends on the year how much snow and rain they've had, but you get into mid-Summer to late summer. 22:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Those waterfalls basically dry up and they disappear. 22:08 [SPEAKER_03]: and because they depend on snow melt and a little bit of rainfall, but it's many melt from that year's winter snow. 22:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And so if seeing one of those, one of more of those magnificent waterfalls is really a big part of your agenda there, then you need to go spraying or early summer or you're going to miss out. 22:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's still a great place. 22:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure anyway, but we really enjoyed the waterfalls as part of the overall scene while we were there. 22:33 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a big plus for us. 22:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I first realized this fluctuation in the waterfalls, when our audio engineer Brent mentioned that although he had been to your Simmery multiple times before, this was the first time he had seen them wet, I had initially had no idea what he was talking about, I asked Jim if he had any favorite stories from his time at your Simmery. 22:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one particularly, it deals with the trail. 22:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And I talked about a couple of trails. 22:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a really famous trail there in the park. 23:03 [SPEAKER_03]: It's known as the John Muratrial EMUI. 23:05 [SPEAKER_03]: John Murat was a famous American naturalist who some people call it in the father of Yosemite because he was really instrumental in promoting the area and developing enough interests where it became an actual park. 23:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So the John Muratrial is named for him. 23:23 [SPEAKER_03]: and is at Mount Whitney, that's the highest point in the Contiguation United States. 23:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you take the free shuttle to stop for a place called Happy Isles, I.S. 23:35 [SPEAKER_03]: L.A.S. 23:36 [SPEAKER_03]: it's short for islands since the Merced River. 23:39 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a trailhead there that's the starting point, mile post zero, so to speak. 23:44 [SPEAKER_03]: for the genre trail. 23:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And because it is a famous trail based on my experience in other places, I suspect that some people may say, ah, I've heard of that. 23:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't we go hike on the genre trail? 23:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that brought to mind a story. 24:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I say, if you want to do that, just you can get off, you can walk the first hundred yards and you can go pick them back on me. 24:06 [SPEAKER_03]: A hike for the Jarmir Trail, you can let your couches be your guide. 24:08 [SPEAKER_03]: If I have much for it, it was, but you could have the experience and say, I at least walk for it if not hiking it, but the story is that because some people may see the name and perhaps being cursed to go for a hike, we ran into a similar situation where it's my wife and I were in the Great Smoking Mountains National Park. 24:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Tennessee and North Carolina. 24:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just going in the easy short paved trail. 24:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And but that trail intersected with the Appalachian Trail as one of the iconic hiking trails in North America. 24:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's so the gravel path, the Appalachian Trail crosses this path we're on. 24:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a sign there. 24:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Wouldn't sign it says, 24:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Applician trail and Lwerra, points in both directions. 24:50 [SPEAKER_03]: You see this path, yes, press off in the woods. 24:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, as we came by, there were two teenage girls standing there. 24:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And they were looking to that side, kind of quiz school expression. 24:59 [SPEAKER_03]: And one of the girls said, hey, Applician trail, I've heard of that. 25:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Why don't we take it? 25:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And the kind of, they looked up in my wife's hour just, 25:10 [SPEAKER_03]: approach in there and I guess we looked at early harmless. 25:12 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're clear to the age or their grandparents. 25:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe these old folks know something about it. 25:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So when I looked at it and said, the application trail, do you know what I think about this trail? 25:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Is it a very long trail? 25:23 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I managed to keep a straight face. 25:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that I looked at her as well. 25:27 [SPEAKER_03]: It's about 2,000 miles long. 25:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's from Georgia to Maine. 25:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And it just happens to pass through here on the way. 25:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And there is this brief pause and the girls said, 25:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so I was relieved because I mean, they were wearing flip-lops and shorts and didn't have any kind of gear at all for it. 25:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Even a half mile height, much less than things serious. 25:49 [SPEAKER_03]: So I always relieved to see them, I get back down to the parking lot and getting the car and get them down the road. 25:53 [SPEAKER_03]: But if somebody is in Yosemite and they're looking at sign for the John Muir Trail and they might wonder if this is a very long trail. 26:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And the answer to that would be, yes, 211 miles on that case. 26:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So again, information is helpful if you're going to decide to take out on a hike. 26:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have kids with us, but I did wonder what amenities or activities were available for families with small children. 26:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you send me, has got some great things for kids to do? 26:20 [SPEAKER_03]: At that same spot that I mentioned, the trailhead for the Jarmure Trail is served with trails leaf and that same spot. 26:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Very close to there is a place called the Happy Isles against spelled IS, LES, happy Isles, art, and nature center. 26:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a great place for kids. 26:37 [SPEAKER_03]: It's open usually from April, throughout October, or usually about nine to four or something. 26:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I had just checked the hours there. 26:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's a family oriented space. 26:45 [SPEAKER_03]: They've got natural history exhibits and interactive displays and hands-on stuff and art workshops. 26:53 [SPEAKER_03]: There's several very short easy walks you can take from that area. 26:56 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you got kids that's a great place for them to go and have something kind of on their level they can enjoy. 27:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And another thing you can do there in virtually any other national park in the country is called the National Park Services Free Junior Ranger Program. 27:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's designed really primary for kids about age four to 12, but they're not going to check your idea if you have you go straight want to sign up for it. 27:19 [SPEAKER_03]: You just go to the need to vister center, you pick up a free little handbook and it's got some activities that you can do. 27:25 [SPEAKER_03]: We should go around the park and kids can film through it. 27:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you go to such and such spot you find something you write down, which is seen here, that kind of thing. 27:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you get it all filled in, you take it back to the visor center and they'll give the it varies. 27:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Some parks have a certificate, some parks have a badge, they have some kind of reward they give you. 27:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Some kids really just get caught up in this and the person they've got a whole collection of patches and the badge has been so really fun activity for them. 27:51 [SPEAKER_03]: you can sign up for this online, you can download the handbook online if you want to, a bit of some people have kids that I've encouraged you to really take advantage of that, you can be the price is free. 28:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The major attraction at your cemetery for most people is the UCemedy Valley and it is seriously breathtaking, but it's also increasingly crowded. 28:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I asked Jim if there was another good spot he recommended in the event that the valley was too full. 28:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, just try to work it into your proximity visit if you can. 28:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It's certainly not a secret. 28:26 [SPEAKER_03]: You won't be the only one there. 28:27 [SPEAKER_03]: This called the tunnel view overload, because it's right next to a tunnel on the road there where this is a great paved road for look. 28:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It's got one of the probably the most famous view points in the entire natural park system. 28:40 [SPEAKER_03]: If standing there looking down on the valley, you've been looking across, you can see our captain and half dome and Broadway all fall, and it is just an absolute magnificent 28:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, it's seven miles to the valley, the shuttle buses do not go there. 28:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Must just be driven into the park, go there, pretty much first thing if you get there early, and then thinking card down and get your parking place thing on. 29:06 [SPEAKER_03]: If I had a parking place in the valley, I don't think I would vacate it at one o'clock at the afternoon in the summer to go up to what the sea tunnel would be because you probably won't find another parking spot. 29:14 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you could work it into your schedule, especially again, 29:20 [SPEAKER_03]: place to stay overnight, get up and drive up there further early in the day before it gets busy. 29:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's also on tow, the favorite sunset spot. 29:28 [SPEAKER_03]: We were only there in the morning. 29:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been there in the evening. 29:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not going to wait till sunset to go there. 29:34 [SPEAKER_03]: But it sure, one that's worth a stop if you can work in India schedule. 29:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think you'd be disappointed. 29:39 [SPEAKER_03]: One other story that has been towed a lot. 29:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I think probably among the staff there in some other places that also has a really important lesson learned for everybody. 29:49 [SPEAKER_03]: 911 said I got this frantic phone call from the guy at the told him he'd had his car parked in a trailhead parking lot. 29:57 [SPEAKER_03]: He came back in terrorists that blown up his car. 30:00 [SPEAKER_03]: How do you know they said? 30:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Because when those all blown out, there's this fight powder all over everything. 30:06 [SPEAKER_03]: You said, send somebody out here quick. 30:08 [SPEAKER_03]: So, I'm sure, Rangers headed out there didn't take him long to sort out that the mysterious fight powder was flower. 30:17 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was from a bag of flour that had been ripped open. 30:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's among a number of items of groceries that the guy had unwisely left inside the car, while he left there overnight to go on his hike. 30:30 [SPEAKER_03]: And what it happened was a berry broken into the car. 30:33 [SPEAKER_03]: After all that food and ripped all that stuff open and pretty much trashed the inside of the guy's car. 30:39 [SPEAKER_03]: And they have to go batting for them. 30:40 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of information out there. 30:42 [SPEAKER_03]: You get to the park. 30:43 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't leave anything that looks like food in your car. 30:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I just have to wonder and retrospect what kind of reaction you got from the insurance got to me when you followed a claim on this thing. 30:52 [SPEAKER_03]: This car had been totally destroyed by a bear. 30:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But it is a real situation that people need to be aware of. 30:58 [SPEAKER_03]: There are hundreds of black bears in your family. 31:02 [SPEAKER_03]: That's their 31:03 [SPEAKER_03]: They've environment and seam line is a real thrill for people, but you don't see a lot of bears because taken during the summer because there's so much activity. 31:11 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you see one, it's great. 31:13 [SPEAKER_03]: But the flipside airs bears are a challenge if people don't follow the rules because the way they they've worked on the park, safety information bears are extremely food driven, bears do just about anything to get to food. 31:31 [SPEAKER_03]: And the problem is that 31:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Human food becomes a real attraction for them. 31:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not good for them. 31:36 [SPEAKER_03]: They develop teeth problems. 31:38 [SPEAKER_03]: They become unhealthy, but Bears like people. 31:41 [SPEAKER_03]: They'd rather eat a snickers than they would a berry probably. 31:44 [SPEAKER_03]: And so the challenges you have to keep 31:48 [SPEAKER_03]: people food away from bears and vice versa. 31:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you don't, the issue is that bears can become dangerous that they've become so cooked based on human food and they associate people with food bears then sometimes have to be killed. 32:02 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's a shame it's avoidable if all of some just do the job. 32:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So the problem is that bears are really smart and they will quickly learn to recognize things they associate with such as a cooler and ice chest. 32:16 [SPEAKER_03]: They were breaking into car if they can see an ice chest, even if they don't smell food because they've learned that usually their study is inside that ice chest. 32:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And they consider a lot of stuff that we would not think of as food is attraction to them, soap, cosmetics, toothpaste, almost anything that has an overtour to it. 32:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, a candy wrapper that has no candy attached has enough over to attract a bear. 32:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And so the park has gone on a really aggressive campaign because this got to be a really huge problem. 32:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Back in 1998, there were 1,600 known incidents of bearers damaging vehicles breaking into them after food. 32:57 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, 1600. 32:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's just the ones that were reported to the park, 33:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So the park got really seriously that this has got to stop. 33:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And so they've got our real serious campaign going. 33:08 [SPEAKER_03]: So the instance dropped from 1600 to 1998 to 22 in 2018. 33:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I'd say that's really remarkable, successful program. 33:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Now to make it work, everybody's got to cooperate and some people of course, you have to use the stick instead of the carrot. 33:25 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you're busy, you need to know that if you're there overnight, 33:30 [SPEAKER_03]: You absolutely positive it cannot store anything that looks like smells like it might be associated with food to bury. 33:36 [SPEAKER_03]: If you leave it in your vehicle and Rangers discover that you're going to get a ticket and your vehicle may get towed, but that's the trade off of dropping bear damage to cars from 1,600 to 22 in the year. 33:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody has to do their part and that's part. 33:51 [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at the park website and you search for bears in food storage. 33:57 [SPEAKER_03]: There's detailed instructions that are about the dos and dots. 34:01 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're going to camp ground, or if you're in the tent cabin, see rent there in the valley, they have food lockers for every campsite, for everything that's a big, huge vault, basically you take all, you take your cooler, your food, your toothpaste, all that. 34:17 [SPEAKER_03]: You think it's going to be in traction to bear sticking in the food lock and locking it up overnight and you're going to go with them. 34:22 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're staying in a lodge, if you're responsible to take that stuff out of your vehicle and take it in your room overnight, and people do that and it works and it's great, but you just need to be informed about how that works. 34:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And if people are, they call us, that's gotta be exaggerated. 34:37 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not really that big a problem. 34:40 [SPEAKER_03]: There are some really impressive videos that you can look at on a lot of YouTube videos, 34:45 [SPEAKER_03]: about bears destroying vehicles in your assembly. 34:49 [SPEAKER_03]: It'll make a blue round. 34:49 [SPEAKER_03]: And they can smash the glass though. 34:51 [SPEAKER_03]: They can literally rip the door off of vehicle. 34:54 [SPEAKER_03]: You're tremendously strong and motivated the creatures when they're after food. 34:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So there's just a tip. 34:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be a guy that deter us to blue or be car up because you left your flower. 35:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you your pancake mix inside the car? 35:06 [SPEAKER_03]: And you'll have a great visit that way. 35:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And the park will be happy. 35:09 [SPEAKER_03]: You'll be happy and the bearer can go back to the blueberries instead of your stickers more or whatever. 35:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I reminded Jim of a phrase for this phenomenon that I had heard him use before. 35:18 [SPEAKER_03]: So that is, and it's a fed bear is a dead bear. 35:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe the one you're thinking about. 35:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's just a reminder to all of us. 35:26 [SPEAKER_03]: The bears are just amazing cool creatures to see out in the wild, but we got to do our parts to keep them wild. 35:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And you don't need to have your car destroyed. 35:37 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't need to have a bear to be put away just because somebody's being curious about that, about your food. 35:43 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a program that's working and that we want to keep working and don't be one of the 22 next year that didn't follow the rules and find a really unhappy and into your vacation. 35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: You come back to Park Laud and have a look at your car or find that it's gone and it's in the impact lot because the ranger's found in your sticker's more available in the dashboard. 36:01 [SPEAKER_00]: The day after our call about Yosemite, Jim called to offer an additional point of clarification on the rules about not having food in your car. 36:10 [SPEAKER_03]: One thing I did think about last night when I was talking about the bears and the food storage and about not being able to leave stuff in your car, I think I mentioned but I'm not sure there's no legal comment to do. 36:21 [SPEAKER_03]: get stuff out of your car during the daytime. 36:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's only at night. 36:25 [SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't want people to think, well, gosh, I've gone for the day. 36:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I got my scooter in my car. 36:29 [SPEAKER_03]: It's only at night time requirement. 36:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Food can be stored in your car at night. 36:33 [SPEAKER_03]: But I didn't want to create this information about that. 36:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Have people panicked. 36:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, gosh, I'm going to be all day. 36:37 [SPEAKER_03]: During the village, I got my picnic basket in the car. 36:40 [SPEAKER_03]: What do I do? 36:41 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a nighttime only situation. 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of our first call, I asked if there was anything else he'd like to add. 36:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I just worked for the Park Service for 30 years, and I knew you assumed it was a great place. 36:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, we never went. 36:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And two reasons first, the only time we could get time off with our kids in school was during summer vacation. 37:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I just knew it was going to be just too crazy crowded and then that didn't appeal to me. 37:06 [SPEAKER_03]: So a wife and I finally went, April. 37:09 [SPEAKER_03]: four years ago and it was a fantastic experience. 37:13 [SPEAKER_03]: So I have been, I regret now that we didn't go sooner, even if put up with the crowds. 37:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So I would say if the only time you can go is during the summer, 37:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm hoping that things are going to get better now with this new reservation system during the peak visiting season. 37:28 [SPEAKER_03]: But to read up and get the information, see what she have to do to get a reservation. 37:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And if summer time is the only time you can go as they go for it. 37:36 [SPEAKER_03]: The pluses of the summer visit, you can get up in a high country. 37:39 [SPEAKER_03]: See some magnificent parts of the park that we could not go because the roads weren't open yet. 37:43 [SPEAKER_03]: They were still snow covered up there. 37:45 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you can go other times if you're a go, but I would say it's so my must see list now, having been there. 37:51 [SPEAKER_03]: All we got to see there was tunnel view overlook and you'll assume the valley cause getting everything else was so snowed in April. 37:57 [SPEAKER_03]: But even that made it bleed out of me. 37:59 [SPEAKER_03]: It's an absolute great experience. 38:02 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'd say just up when you get a chance go, get a confirmation ahead of time. 38:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Just don't entice the bearers to have a picnic of your car. 38:10 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're gonna take a hike, just know whether or not it's a really long trail before you get started. 38:16 [SPEAKER_00]: At the end of each episode, after we've heard from Gem, I'd like to share a few fun facts or details from each park that I've found particularly interesting. 38:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The more I hear and read about these parks, the more interesting they've become for me, and I hope that you feel the same. 38:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Earlier in the episode Jim referred to the fact that some of the waterfalls of Yosemite dry up for certain times of the year, I wanted to add that there is a rare 10-minute window that occurs for two weeks during the year where the horse tail falls looks as if it's flowing with molten lava. 38:49 [SPEAKER_00]: This only happens during the last two weeks of February. 38:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Look it up sometime. 38:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It's spectacular. 38:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I also found it interesting that the Yosemite Valley was not included in the original park boundary in 1864. 39:01 [SPEAKER_00]: This means that El Capitán, half-dome, and Yosemite Falls were all added to the park in 1890 when Yosemite became the fourth official national park after Yellowstone, Sequoia, and Magna Island, which was later demoted to state park status. 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Your Simity wants bid to host the 1932 Winter Olympics. 39:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, it lost the bid, and the park was spared distress and also the ruins of an Olympic park complex. 39:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Whenever I travel, part of my research is just reading reviews. 39:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They can be unreliable, but there's always a possibility you might learn something, especially when large numbers of people are saying the same thing. 39:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I found a surprising number of one star reviews for your sanity, and almost all of them are saying the same thing. 39:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Reserve ahead of time, or you won't get in, and if you can't get into your sanity, it becomes difficult to enjoy it. 39:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Some families travel the country, thousands of miles, only to be turned away. 40:03 [SPEAKER_00]: One of these reviews, from Stephen H, says, heads up, a reservation is required to enter the park during this time, we had no idea, 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It came all the way from Arizona only to be turned away, super disappointed to your research and playing appropriately. 40:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Should have listened to Jim. 40:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that you have, I hope you'll benefit as much as we well on our next trip west. 40:29 [SPEAKER_00]: In the next episode, I'll be heading to Yellowstone
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