Obscura: A True Crime PodcastDouble Homicide: The House on Benchor Road - Part 01April 21, 202629mPlay EpisodeShow NotesDouble Homicide: The House on Benchor Road - Part 01Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/obscura-a-true-crime-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyShare:X / TwitterFacebookCopy LinkShareCreditsJustin Drown — HostProduced by Myths & MaliceTranscript465 segments0:02[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome listener.0:04[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad you're here.0:06[SPEAKER_01]: Take a seat.0:07[SPEAKER_01]: Next to the fire.0:12[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark.0:40[SPEAKER_01]: The air in Palm Bay sat heavy, that first week of July.0:44[SPEAKER_01]: The way Florida air always does, in the days before a summer storm.0:49[SPEAKER_01]: Humidity pressed against window screens, rolled off of hot asphalt, and settled on every square inch of skin, the moment a person stepped outside, evenings offered no real relief.1:01[SPEAKER_01]: The sun went down, the white blood out of the sky, and the heat stayed exactly where it had been.1:07[SPEAKER_01]: In the heat state exactly where it had been, all afternoon, waiting, patient.1:13[SPEAKER_01]: The kind of summer night that makes a neighborhood lean into its routines, a little tighter, because the weather won't let anyone forget it still there.1:22[SPEAKER_01]: Benchoa Road, Northwest runs through a quiet corner for Vard County.1:26[SPEAKER_01]: It is not an address that draws attention.1:29[SPEAKER_01]: A stretch of modest single story homes, with small front yards and cracked driveways.1:35[SPEAKER_01]: palm trees leaning at odd angles from years of wind, mailboxes sent at the curb.1:41[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them scuffed by passing bumpers.1:44[SPEAKER_01]: In the distance, a constant low hum rolls off interstate 95, and folds itself into the background of the neighborhood, until most of the people who live there can no longer hear it, listener.1:56[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to hold that picture in your mind.1:58[SPEAKER_01]: A street like any other.2:00[SPEAKER_01]: The kind of place where people have lived there for a decade.2:04[SPEAKER_01]: Still wave at the neighbor they have never actually spoken to.2:07[SPEAKER_01]: porch lights on until midnight, a few potted plants near the front door, children on bicycles in the late afternoon, along more heard somewhere on a Saturday morning.2:18[SPEAKER_01]: The ordinaryness of it all is the whole point, because what happened inside one of those ordinary houses is going to ask you to sit with the fact that monstrous things don't always announce themselves from the outside, sometimes violence grows quietly in the dry2:36[SPEAKER_01]: for weeks or months before anyone outside the family ever thinks to look for it.2:41[SPEAKER_01]: The residents in question stood like it does in other homes on the block, while citing worn soft by years of fortest son, a driveway that could fit two cars if he parked them carefully.2:52[SPEAKER_01]: A front porch light that stayed on long after most of the neighborhood had gone dark.2:57[SPEAKER_01]: Neighbors described the family as private but polite, Kelly McCollum, lived there with their 16-year-old daughter, Kelly was 38 years old.3:05[SPEAKER_01]: She had spent most of her adult life,3:07[SPEAKER_01]: Raising her child on her own, after earlier relationships had not lasted, she worked steadily.3:13[SPEAKER_01]: She paid the bills.3:15[SPEAKER_01]: She kept the lights on in the pantry stock, and the household moving from one month to the next.3:20[SPEAKER_01]: People who knew her described her as dependable.3:22[SPEAKER_01]: She showed up when she was needed, she tried to hold structure at home, balancing care and expectations, the way any single parent eventually learns to do, or gives up trying.3:33[SPEAKER_01]: Those who spoke with Kelly, casually, often heard stories about her daughter growing up.3:38[SPEAKER_01]: It was pride in those stories.3:40[SPEAKER_01]: They seem to have a great relationship, checking the Facebook and Alice's full pictures of them smiling together.3:46[SPEAKER_01]: Happy family.3:48[SPEAKER_07]: My name is Julia, and I want to tell you about Doctoria.3:51[SPEAKER_07]: You're probably asking yourself, why should I pick those hair oil?3:55[SPEAKER_07]: There's so many brands out there.3:56[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I suggest it's here because we're the only certified peer that'd be a great essential oil.4:04[SPEAKER_01]: In the months leading up to that July, Kelly had started dating again, she had met a man named Matthew Shinerock.4:10[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew was 22 years old.4:12[SPEAKER_01]: The age gap between them was not subtle.4:15[SPEAKER_01]: 16 years is 16 years of listener.4:17[SPEAKER_01]: Kelly to those who knew her seemed optimistic about the relationship.4:21[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing seemed wrong.4:23[SPEAKER_01]: She talked about having someone to spend time with outside of work and parenting.4:27[SPEAKER_01]: Someone who would bring a little normal seat back into our life.4:30[SPEAKER_01]: A life she had mostly been running alone.4:32[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew began to appear at the house more often.4:34[SPEAKER_01]: He shared meals with the family.4:36[SPEAKER_01]: He helped with small things around the property.4:38[SPEAKER_01]: Neighbors who saw him described him as quiet.4:41[SPEAKER_01]: Very unassuming.4:43[SPEAKER_01]: Easy to overlook.4:44[SPEAKER_01]: He did not stand out.4:45[SPEAKER_01]: He blended into whatever rhythm the household already had.4:48[SPEAKER_01]: and the routine absorbed him the way routines tend to do.4:52[SPEAKER_01]: Then there was the teenager at the heart of the story.4:54[SPEAKER_01]: Julia Grace Eagler, 16 years old, high school student dealing with the ordinary pressures of being 16, plus a set of tensions that were anything but ordinary.5:05[SPEAKER_01]: On the outside, Julia looked like any other teenager in that neighborhood.5:09[SPEAKER_01]: As previously mentioned, photos shared online showed her smiling at the beach, at home, during outings with family.5:17[SPEAKER_01]: Those images captured moments that looked calm, connected, unremarkable.5:21[SPEAKER_01]: Julia kept a bedroom she did not often leave, posters on the walls, a laptop glowing lay into the night, and door that state closed more often than a state open, two pit bulls that followed her around the house, a room that functioned in a way teenage bedrooms often due, as a separate small country inside the larger house, with its own borders and its own language.5:44[SPEAKER_01]: Something in the household had shifted in the weeks before July.5:47[SPEAKER_01]: People who spent time around the family, it sensed it without being able to name it.5:52[SPEAKER_01]: Conversations went a little too long behind closed doors.5:56[SPEAKER_01]: Silences at dinner that lasted a beat longer than they used to.5:59[SPEAKER_01]: The kind of quiet friction that builds in a lot of homes, when three lives are trying to fit into a space bill for two.6:06[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing that rose to the level of concern reminds you.6:09[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing a neighbor would call the police about, just the ordinary way that accumulates when a family is finding a new shave, and not finding it easily.6:18[SPEAKER_01]: By the end of June that where it started to show, doors closed a little harder, evenings went quiet and a way that was not peaceful, raised voices drifted once or twice into yards where children were playing, and then stopped, and then the house went back to looking like any other house on the block.6:35[SPEAKER_01]: neighbor saw the three of them together in the driveway now and then exchanging brief greetings nothing in those moments gave anything away whatever was happening inside that home was staying inside that home the way most of these stories do right up until the moment that they do not 911 what's the location of the emergency hello okay what's going on7:02[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh7:27[SPEAKER_04]: really long time.7:28[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know how long it's done.7:30[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think the door was locked, but I don't think he knew that.7:32[SPEAKER_04]: There was a hammer by the back.7:36[SPEAKER_04]: And what that your hammer did they bring it with them?7:38[SPEAKER_04]: It was just the house ever just by the back.7:42[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a bit of a sound, it grabbed it and broke in the window so they broke the window with a hammer that you already had in your yard.7:49[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's loose the glass.7:53[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, take a deep breath.7:55[SPEAKER_04]: You haven't heard them in a while, right?7:58[SPEAKER_04]: So, would there only one person in that you saw?8:01[SPEAKER_04]: That I saw, yeah, there's one person.8:04[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and where are you in that house right now?8:06[SPEAKER_04]: I just do a little bit of room.8:10[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, we already have help on the way.8:12[SPEAKER_04]: So, just take a deep breath, okay?8:14[SPEAKER_04]: Do they try to make contact with you?8:15[SPEAKER_04]: No, because...8:17[SPEAKER_04]: I brought silly heroes, they hold a grab in time where the dogs kiss, I wanted them with me.8:23[SPEAKER_04]: And whoever it was, they killed the lobbyist.8:26[SPEAKER_04]: Did anyone else at home with you?8:28[SPEAKER_04]: Some people.8:29[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're collecting anyone to come home.8:35[SPEAKER_04]: My mom is very boyfriend without getting home.8:39[SPEAKER_04]: to your body a bit for her bed.8:41[SPEAKER_04]: So you're out by yourself.8:44[SPEAKER_04]: You should be a whole load.8:45[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, I know this is really scary.8:47[SPEAKER_04]: Um, but your mom and her boyfriend should be on their way home.8:50[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, there she is.8:54[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.8:56[SPEAKER_04]: Take a deep breath.8:57[SPEAKER_04]: We have off here so they're just coming into the area really soon.9:00[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm gonna stay on the phone with you just in case, okay?9:04[SPEAKER_04]: Please shove your dogs with you.9:06[SPEAKER_04]: Is there just still in my room?9:08[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't listen up because I didn't want them to get involved over all day.9:12[SPEAKER_04]: All right, right.9:14[SPEAKER_04]: Did you say blood all over their paws?9:17[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, too, too, too, too, too, too.9:20[SPEAKER_04]: Is there a blood inside your house?9:23[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.9:24[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of it.9:27[SPEAKER_04]: You're glad or is it the person who broke in blood?9:31[SPEAKER_04]: Are you injured?9:32[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm scared, fine.9:34[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm glad.9:35[SPEAKER_04]: It's the person who broke in if they're blood, where is it at?9:39[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's their blood or not, I don't think it's theirs, it's my fault, it's true what I heard, what I was hiding in my room, I can't ignore it, it's all my fault.9:51[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I've been able to grab the phone.9:55[SPEAKER_04]: No, nothing is your fault.9:57[SPEAKER_04]: If someone broke into her house, nothing is your fault.9:59[SPEAKER_04]: No, I just want to confirm it.10:00[SPEAKER_04]: Do you know if anyone is hurt at your house?10:06[SPEAKER_01]: On the night of July 6th, into the early hours of July 7th, the house sat in that familiar fort of silence.10:14[SPEAKER_01]: Mayor Conditioner ran a steady home, crickets and cicadas filled in the edges, street lights cast long shadows across the lawns.10:22[SPEAKER_01]: Kelly and Matthew had gone out for the evening.10:25[SPEAKER_01]: Julia was home.10:26[SPEAKER_01]: The two dogs were somewhere in the hallway.10:28[SPEAKER_01]: As they always were, the porch light was on, the front door walked.10:33[SPEAKER_01]: But before the end of the night, everything would change.10:36[SPEAKER_01]: At approximately 12.06 in the morning, on July 7th, a 911 call came into the Palm Bay Police Department.10:43[SPEAKER_01]: The caller identified herself as Julia Grace Eglare.10:47[SPEAKER_01]: Her voice was high in breaking.10:49[SPEAKER_01]: She told the dispatcher someone had broken into the house while she was alone.10:53[SPEAKER_01]: She said the man had come in through the backsliding glass door.10:57[SPEAKER_01]: She gave a description.10:58[SPEAKER_01]: Roughly 5 feet 8 inches tall.11:01[SPEAKER_01]: Male.11:01[SPEAKER_01]: She said she thought he had used a hammer that had been left in the backyard to break the glass.11:06[SPEAKER_01]: The call lasted about nine minutes.11:09[SPEAKER_01]: Julia was hysterical through most of it.11:11[SPEAKER_01]: She told the dispatcher she had grabbed her two dogs and locked herself in her bedroom.11:16[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had heard loud banging in the house.11:19[SPEAKER_01]: She believed the intruder had kicked in her mother's bedroom door.11:23[SPEAKER_01]: She said her dogs were barking.11:24[SPEAKER_01]: and she thought maybe the noise had scared him off from coming into her room.11:28[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had left her phone on the couch when she ran, which was why it had taken her so long to call.11:35[SPEAKER_01]: She told the dispatcher that her mother and her mother's boyfriend were not home.11:39[SPEAKER_01]: She said they were out shopping.11:41[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had stayed locked in her bedroom for nearly an hour.11:45[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had heard her mother and Matthew come home at some point.11:49[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had heard screams.11:51[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had heard gunshots.11:53[SPEAKER_01]: She said she had waited, terrified, and eventually she had come out of a room.11:58[SPEAKER_01]: And that is when she had found them.12:00[SPEAKER_01]: The dispatcher stayed on the line with her.12:03[SPEAKER_01]: Well officers were sent to the address.12:05[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, okay.12:09[SPEAKER_08]: We're time 12.12:15[SPEAKER_06]: Why is there blood on the floor?12:17[SPEAKER_03]: Kisler?12:19[SPEAKER_03]: Huh?12:21[SPEAKER_06]: Why?12:21[SPEAKER_06]: You okay?12:21[SPEAKER_06]: Are you okay?12:22[SPEAKER_06]: Are you bleeding?12:22[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.12:24[SPEAKER_06]: So he's bleeding.12:25[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.12:27[SPEAKER_06]: I'm outside.12:28[SPEAKER_03]: I'm outside.12:28[SPEAKER_03]: I'm outside.12:30[SPEAKER_03]: What is wrong with him?12:31[SPEAKER_03]: Why is that door smell?12:33[SPEAKER_08]: It's so empty.12:34[SPEAKER_08]: Two of it, two of it.12:36[SPEAKER_08]: We have medical response.12:36[SPEAKER_08]: We have blood on the floor.12:38[SPEAKER_03]: We're bleeding.12:40[SPEAKER_06]: Where's your mom?12:45[SPEAKER_06]: ready to stay in.12:47[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, I got it.12:49[SPEAKER_06]: It's time 33.12:51[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody stay out here, where?12:52[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin, you got it.12:57[SPEAKER_06]: It's time to see you right here.12:59[SPEAKER_06]: Yep.12:59[SPEAKER_06]: We got the works of the right.13:03[SPEAKER_03]: It's time to see you right here, right?13:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it works of the right.13:11[SPEAKER_02]: You okay?13:13[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I mean, he's a clean, like he has a foot.13:32[SPEAKER_03]: He's so weak.13:34[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a weak man.13:37[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a weak man.13:43[SPEAKER_03]: If you just grab the phone and time.13:47[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, who do you live here with him?13:52[SPEAKER_06]: Here mom, are you okay?13:54[SPEAKER_06]: Are you injured at all?13:55[SPEAKER_06]: Is it okay?13:57[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.13:59[SPEAKER_06]: Who else lives here just your mom?14:01[SPEAKER_09]: Her boyfriend was around a lot.14:03[SPEAKER_06]: Her boyfriend wants to see me.14:05[SPEAKER_09]: Oh.14:07[SPEAKER_06]: But I feel... Matthew?14:10[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.14:22[SPEAKER_03]: You have to hold her alone.14:25[SPEAKER_03]: Don't get it started.14:29[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:29[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:31[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:33[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:34[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:35[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:38[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.14:42[SPEAKER_09]: It's okay.14:43[SPEAKER_09]: It's okay.14:43[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:44[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:44[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:44[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:46[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:46[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:46[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:47[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:47[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:48[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:48[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:48[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:49[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:50[SPEAKER_08]: It's okay.14:50[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.14:50[SPEAKER_01]: Julia repeated that she did not understand what had happened.14:54[SPEAKER_01]: She asked for help again and again, her voice rose and fell in a particular way.14:59[SPEAKER_01]: Panic makes a voice move.15:00[SPEAKER_01]: By the time the cruisers rolled up to the house on bench or road, with her lights throwing red and blue across the sighting of every home on the block, the neighborhood was wide away.15:10[SPEAKER_01]: Officers approached the property cautiously, weapons drawn, flashlight sweeping the yard.15:20[SPEAKER_01]: Glass was scattered on the patio across the interior floor.15:24[SPEAKER_01]: The first officer to clear the home found what they had been preparing themselves to find.15:30[SPEAKER_01]: Kelly McCollum was in the living room.15:33[SPEAKER_01]: She had been shot multiple times.15:35[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew Scheinrock was in the bathroom.15:38[SPEAKER_01]: He had been shot and he had been stabbed.15:40[SPEAKER_01]: Multiple shell casings lay on the floor near his body.15:43[SPEAKER_01]: Blood trails moved from the living room, down the hallway into the bathroom.15:48[SPEAKER_01]: A knife was on the kitchen counter, the knife that had brutalized Matthew.15:53[SPEAKER_01]: The air conditioner still hummed in the background.15:56[SPEAKER_01]: The television was still on somewhere.15:58[SPEAKER_01]: Appliances in the kitchen were still running.16:01[SPEAKER_01]: The house itself felt stopped in time.16:04[SPEAKER_01]: As houses do after something irreversible has happened inside them.16:16[SPEAKER_10]: and what started, what started, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,16:42[SPEAKER_09]: Where was your mom at?16:45[SPEAKER_08]: You heard me several years before I was out.16:50[SPEAKER_10]: You were buying me.16:51[SPEAKER_10]: I was just trying to put her in.16:52[SPEAKER_10]: I was just trying to put her in a couple of minutes ago.16:55[SPEAKER_09]: No, it was like, whoever said that was like a couple of hours ago.17:01[SPEAKER_10]: Please.17:02[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.17:03[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.17:03[SPEAKER_10]: Um.17:03[UNKNOWN]: So.17:05[SPEAKER_10]: If you call your mom, and tell her, how do you call me looks like this?17:10[SPEAKER_10]: They're so cute.17:12[SPEAKER_08]: They're so cute.17:15[SPEAKER_08]: They're so cute.17:16[SPEAKER_08]: I have her button.17:18[SPEAKER_08]: That's back.17:20[SPEAKER_08]: and use the excess of the back door and I don't think he knew that it was a lot, but that's why it's such a much easier than I thought it was to my room, because you could just open the door and come here and let's go.17:33[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, so this guy smashed the back window while you're inside.17:38[SPEAKER_10]: And did you call mine on one?17:44[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.17:48[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.17:49[SPEAKER_08]: I couldn't do it.17:52[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't see anyone.17:53[SPEAKER_03]: I was supposed to get it.17:55[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't.17:57[SPEAKER_03]: All right.17:57[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.17:58[SPEAKER_03]: All right.17:59[SPEAKER_03]: There.17:59[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't do anything.18:00[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't remember.18:02[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:02[UNKNOWN]: I didn't remember.18:02[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:03[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:03[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:04[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:04[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:05[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:05[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:05[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:06[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't remember.18:07[SPEAKER_08]: I heard your shots.18:19[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.18:19[SPEAKER_08]: You're gonna hurt those.18:19[SPEAKER_08]: I do.18:19[SPEAKER_08]: I do.18:20[SPEAKER_08]: I do.18:20[SPEAKER_08]: Someone.18:21[SPEAKER_08]: I died.18:21[SPEAKER_08]: I can just.18:21[SPEAKER_08]: I can feel it.18:22[SPEAKER_08]: You know?18:22[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.18:22[SPEAKER_08]: That's all stupid.18:29[UNKNOWN]: I just.18:29[SPEAKER_08]: Oh.18:29[SPEAKER_08]: You tell them.18:29[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.18:31[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.18:31[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.18:31[SPEAKER_08]: I don't know.18:32[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.18:32[UNKNOWN]: You must.18:35[SPEAKER_10]: So, you're saying that your mom and him weren't home when this person was breaking in to the house.18:58[SPEAKER_08]: Did you hear your mom and her boyfriend come home?18:59[SPEAKER_08]: That's it.18:59[SPEAKER_08]: What do you want to do?19:00[SPEAKER_08]: I want to do this.19:00[SPEAKER_08]: I want to do this.19:01[SPEAKER_08]: I want to do this.19:01[SPEAKER_08]: I want to do this.19:01[SPEAKER_08]: I want to do this.19:02[UNKNOWN]: I want to do this.19:02[UNKNOWN]: I want to do this.19:02[UNKNOWN]: I want to do this.19:08[SPEAKER_10]: Okay, um, was he white, why?19:13[SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if I had to guess maybe.19:19[SPEAKER_09]: Is there guns inside the home?19:21[SPEAKER_10]: There was.19:21[SPEAKER_10]: There was.19:24[SPEAKER_10]: Where did it go?19:26[SPEAKER_10]: I don't know.19:29[SPEAKER_10]: How do you know it's not there anymore?19:32[SPEAKER_10]: So whoever broke in can it's up to God?19:43[SPEAKER_01]: Julia was not in the house when officers cleared it.19:46[SPEAKER_01]: She was outside, waiting for them.19:48[SPEAKER_01]: She appeared shaking, her face was wet.19:51[SPEAKER_01]: Her breathing was uneven.19:53[SPEAKER_01]: When the first officer to reach the front door asked her if she was okay, if she was bleeding, she said she was not.20:00[SPEAKER_01]: When the officer asked her why the rear door to the house was smashed, she said, quote, someone came in.20:07[SPEAKER_01]: an detective walked her out in the driveway.20:10[SPEAKER_01]: She stood in the glow of the cruiser lights, and repeated the story she had just told the dispatcher, an intruder, a man, a hammer, hiding the dogs, the screams, the gunshots, the hours stay inside the bedroom.20:24[SPEAKER_01]: Inside the house, officers began the careful work of documenting what they had found, taping up around the property.20:31[SPEAKER_01]: Horrible lights were set up.20:34[SPEAKER_01]: Photographs were taken.20:35[SPEAKER_01]: Each piece of evidence was numbered, logged and preserved.20:39[SPEAKER_01]: Kelly's body was photographed where she lay.20:42[SPEAKER_01]: Matthew's body was photographed in the bathroom.20:44[SPEAKER_01]: The shell casings were counted.20:46[SPEAKER_01]: Blood trails were mapped.20:48[SPEAKER_01]: Broken glass was swept in examined.20:50[SPEAKER_01]: Outside neighbors had started to emerge.20:53[SPEAKER_01]: Pomes pressed to foreheads, phones and hands.20:56[SPEAKER_01]: The quiet street that had been quiet for so long was suddenly the loudest block in Bevard County.21:02[SPEAKER_06]: What happened to your hand?21:04[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's an old scar.21:06[SPEAKER_06]: And old scar.21:07[SPEAKER_06]: How'd you get that?21:09[SPEAKER_09]: Well, I think I, one day, I was coming home full just to go and help a little walker going somewhere, and I broke the window to get in because it was locked in the mother's room.21:23[SPEAKER_10]: Oh, okay.21:23[SPEAKER_10]: You guys are having fun with these things.21:27[SPEAKER_10]: Please let us light out when something's there bringing you to house.21:32[SPEAKER_10]: If you set classes, you're having it now in 15 years.21:51[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.21:52[SPEAKER_10]: Yes.21:52[SPEAKER_09]: Oh.21:54[UNKNOWN]: Yes.21:54[UNKNOWN]: Yes.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:55[SPEAKER_09]: Did you check to see if she had a pulse or anything like that?21:57[UNKNOWN]: Then touch yourself.21:58[UNKNOWN]: Okay.21:58[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.21:58[SPEAKER_09]: If you're breathing, there's a big, full of blood.22:02[SPEAKER_09]: What seems like that you get the same thing with Matthew as him they're all want to get a good What old you mean?22:19[SPEAKER_10]: You mentioned me earlier how the glass have been broken how did you know that how do you know what was used?22:29[SPEAKER_09]: I saw that I looked out there and saw that the game was really original, so I saw that the camera wasn't where the original was, because it was a crop-up in the house.22:49[SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't the same spot.22:50[SPEAKER_09]: So, this is just me assuming it's what you used to mean.22:54[SPEAKER_09]: For all I know he could have kicked in, I don't know.22:57[SPEAKER_09]: That's what I wanted to do.22:59[SPEAKER_09]: I'm upset that, remember when I told you that, for a boyfriend, you still live over there, and that's who lives over there.23:07[SPEAKER_09]: So, Matthew spoke with stuff.23:12[SPEAKER_09]: Okay?23:12[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.23:14[SPEAKER_09]: But, I'm only once that they were really into drugs and stuff, I don't know.23:20[SPEAKER_09]: if it was someone who had some kind of like grudge came out for them because they didn't really seem like they didn't.23:33[SPEAKER_09]: But this just made me like thinking, yeah, but they didn't really seem like they wanted to be a good particular.23:39[SPEAKER_09]: It was like, because if you think about it, yeah.23:44[SPEAKER_09]: I know that there was a dog's stuff barking, you know what I'm going to, or really with a pitball in it, that's obviously dumb thing to do, or like, like, if you think about it, a pitball you don't know, you don't know if it's, you know, pitball's irritation, whatever, but it's just me thinking, I think really cracking my brain about it, but I don't know, it's just24:12[SPEAKER_01]: A double homicide, a terrified teenage girl on the driveway, a home invader still at large.24:20[SPEAKER_01]: The story, as I traveled through the neighborhood, wrote itself, everyone knew what to feel because the story told them what to feel.24:29[SPEAKER_01]: for the first hours of the investigation.24:32[SPEAKER_01]: Julia Aglar was in the eyes of the public and in the eyes of many of the early responders, the surviving victim, a child who had hidden in her bedroom, while her mother and her mother's boyfriend had been killed in their own home by a stranger.24:45[SPEAKER_01]: It was a scenario that fit cleanly into the kind of nightmare.24:49[SPEAKER_01]: Every parrot has, at three in the morning, a stranger at the back door.24:54[SPEAKER_01]: and teenage girl alone, two people returning home at the wrong moment, a tragedy that could have been anyone's tragedy, if the dice had rolled just a little differently.25:04[SPEAKER_01]: This is the story that filled the first news reports.25:07[SPEAKER_01]: That is the story that drifted through the neighborhood that morning.25:11[SPEAKER_01]: That is the story that Julia had told on the phone on the driveway and that she would tell again and again for the hours to come, but listener, stories are only as strong as25:24[SPEAKER_09]: Can't even begin to imagine.25:26[SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry.25:29[SPEAKER_08]: I wake up tomorrow.25:34[SPEAKER_08]: I'm lucky.25:34[SPEAKER_08]: I'm happy to see you tomorrow.25:36[SPEAKER_08]: Did you sleep?25:37[SPEAKER_08]: I didn't need to apologize for that.25:41[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.25:41[SPEAKER_09]: The adults are very...25:44[SPEAKER_09]: The guys don't do it, but... On the contrary, it is.25:53[SPEAKER_09]: Because it makes me so scared.25:55[SPEAKER_09]: trans, so it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine, it's fine,26:25[SPEAKER_09]: and more of your play.26:27[SPEAKER_09]: Why don't you, I'll just, well, I'm getting that a lot, I guess I just haven't had the feeling it.26:34[SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.26:35[SPEAKER_03]: I don't always do.26:36[SPEAKER_03]: Did you get the lady out there on that one earlier?26:39[SPEAKER_03]: That's where I was at somebody I didn't play for.26:41[SPEAKER_03]: Was that you?26:44[SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.26:44[SPEAKER_03]: You apologize, so I thought it figured it out.26:46[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, sorry, I didn't even find it.26:49[SPEAKER_03]: You and your homestead.26:50[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it's a homestead.26:51[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.26:52[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, my love is sitting in it all the way.26:55[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.26:55[SPEAKER_05]: And then this evening, or whatever.26:57[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't even stop the check if she was fine.26:59[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was like, wait, it was you.27:03[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was.27:05[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was like, I'm over here.27:06[SPEAKER_01]: By the time the sun came up on July 7th, detectives at the scene were already starting to notice places where Julia's story did not wind up with what the house itself was telling them.27:19[SPEAKER_01]: Listener, this is where I'm going to stop for now.27:22[SPEAKER_01]: Not because the story stops here, but because the story turns here.27:26[SPEAKER_01]: And that turn is heavy enough that I wanna give it room to land on its own by the time the sun came up on July 27th, 2024.27:35[SPEAKER_01]: The quiet street on Benchoir Road was no longer quiet, two people were gone, a teenage girl was being walked away from that driveway where she had told her story to officers.27:45[SPEAKER_01]: The neighborhood woke up to flashing lights, yellow tape, the kind of headline that makes a person check the lock on their own back door before they leave for work.27:54[SPEAKER_01]: The first version of the story had already traveled, but inside the house,27:58[SPEAKER_01]: The physical evidence had already started to tell a different story.28:01[SPEAKER_01]: Detectives had started reading the scene the way detectives read them, glass that had fallen in the wrong direction, footprints that did not match.28:10[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get to that.28:12[SPEAKER_01]: Next episode, you were going to hear about all that in more.28:15[SPEAKER_01]: And not just my description of it.28:17[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get some actual audio, I'll be walking you through pieces of the interrogation as it was conducted by detectives with the Palm Bay Police Department.28:26[SPEAKER_01]: And because I always try to do this on Obscura, I'm going to be bringing back the focus to the victims before the episode ends.28:33[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you'd like to support Obscura, get early access, access to a ton of bonus episodes, including Black Label and Fireside Chat, and more, head to patreon.com, slash Obscura Crime Podcast.28:47[SPEAKER_01]: If you're listening to this episode on the Patreon, expect the next episode real soon.28:52[SPEAKER_01]: I thank you for listening, and keep the fire burning.Show full transcript (465 segments)Listen to Obscura: A True Crime PodcastApple PodcastsSpotifyAmazon MusicPatreonthe M&M DispatchGet new Obscura: A True Crime Podcast episodes and case updates from across the network.WebsiteJoinEnjoying Obscura: A True Crime Podcast?Leave a rating on Apple Podcasts. 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